Me also, or should we ask on the eclipse aether list? (is there such a list already?)
LieGrue, strub --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote: > From: Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core > with EPL licenses - take 2 > To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org> > Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 2:34 PM > 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>: > > > > On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > > > >> So I reformulate my question : 'how to be in the > initial set of > >> committers ?" too late ? > >> > > > > Just ask. As I posted previously, anyone who wants to > be listed as a committer I will add. > Oups I missed. > > So I ask. > > > > >> 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>: > >>> > >>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Olivier Lamy > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> Perso the license question doesn't matter > a lot as long we have a > >>>> compatible one with ASF. > >>>> Have a look at tomcat 7 or the cxf > distribs which contains ecj and/or > >>>> jetty so the Eclipse license is not a > trouble for ASF products (sure > >>>> at least for me). > >>>> My main point is more regarding the > governance model and the devs/pmcs > >>>> involved for those projects @eclipse. > >>>> If I look at the various proposals for > aether [1] and sisu [2], the > >>>> initial set of committers doesn't show a > diversity or a huge > >>>> community. > >>>> > >>>> So even if probably I won't be a huge > committer, how will it be > >>>> possible to participate in the projects ? > >>> > >>> The process is more or less identical to > Apache. The voting starts by a committer nominating someone > and the process is tracked in the portal where votes are > registered and tracked. Election of committers is the domain > of committers and the PMC has to approve the final vote. PMC > members are usually committers. As committers vote, they are > posted to the mailing list in question so people can see the > progress. > >>> > >>>> And probably some others Maven folks have > the same question. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> -- > >>>> Olivier Lamy > >>>> Talend : http://talend.com > >>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > >>>> > >>>> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/ > >>>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> 2011/8/18 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>: > >>>>> Jason, Brian, Benjamin or any other > person involved, > >>>>> > >>>>> Before voting on this issue, I'd like > to get an idea what it means for us. So please allow me a > few questions: > >>>>> > >>>>> a.) how can appache maven committers > anticipate on aether over at Eclipse? What if someone (like > me) likes to contribute, but wants to make sure that his > contributions are also possible to release separately under > ALv2? > >>>>> > >>>>> b.) is it possible to operate aether > without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or plexus DI stuff is fine. > Is there any direct guice depending code in aether? > >>>>> > >>>>> c.) will the package names remain > com.sonatype or will they get changed to org.eclipse.*? This > is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel the > vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse. > >>>>> > >>>>> d.) How long will it take to get the > first aether release done at Eclipse? > >>>>> > >>>>> If there is a chilly way for maven > committers to get involved with that stuff over at Eclipse, > then this would be a big pro. > >>>>> > >>>>> txs and LieGrue, > >>>>> strub > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar > <and...@hammar.net> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> From: Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of > Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core with EPL > licenses - take 2 > >>>>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org> > >>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, > 10:56 AM > >>>>>> +1 (non-binding) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> /Anders > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com>: > >>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thus as decided with Mark > and Kristian I relaunch a > >>>>>> new vote with a better > >>>>>>> scope about what we are voting > for. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Next releases of SISU and > Aether will be released at > >>>>>> Eclipse.org under EPL > >>>>>>> 1.0 license. > >>>>>>> Before they were published > under ASL or dual ASL/EPL > >>>>>> licenses thus as > >>>>>>> defined in our policy [1] this > change put them in > >>>>>> Category B [2] and we need > >>>>>>> to validate this change by a > vote with a majority of > >>>>>> the PMC in favor (but > >>>>>>> the vote is open to > everybody). > >>>>>>> I push only one vote for > both dependencies as for > >>>>>> now I see no reason to > >>>>>>> accept one and not the other. > >>>>>>> This vote will be open for 6 > days as we are in > >>>>>> august (If we have not > >>>>>>> enough votes at the end of > next wednesday will see if > >>>>>> we really need to > >>>>>>> extend it). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The vote : > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [+1] I'm in favor to use as > Maven core dependencies > >>>>>> SISU and AETHER libraries > >>>>>>> published under EPL 1.0 > License and released under > >>>>>> eclipse.org governance > >>>>>>> [+0] No opinion, do what you > want. > >>>>>>> [-1] I'm against because > .... (please elaborate) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arnaud > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html > >>>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Jason > >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Jason van Zyl > >>> Founder, Apache Maven > >>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> A party which is not afraid of letting > culture, > >>> business, and welfare go to ruin completely > can > >>> be omnipotent for a while. > >>> > >>> -- Jakob Burckhardt > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Olivier Lamy > >> Talend : http://talend.com > >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jason > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Jason van Zyl > > Founder, Apache Maven > > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > A party which is not afraid of letting culture, > > business, and welfare go to ruin completely can > > be omnipotent for a while. > > > > -- Jakob Burckhardt > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Olivier Lamy > Talend : http://talend.com > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
