I'd like to be added as well please. On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote: > I'll get Wayne Beaton to add yourself and Olivier to the proposal. > > On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > >> Me also, or should we ask on the eclipse aether list? (is there such a list >> already?) >> >> LieGrue, >> strub >> >> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> From: Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core >>> with EPL licenses - take 2 >>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org> >>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 2:34 PM >>> 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>: >>>> >>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >>>> >>>>> So I reformulate my question : 'how to be in the >>> initial set of >>>>> committers ?" too late ? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Just ask. As I posted previously, anyone who wants to >>> be listed as a committer I will add. >>> Oups I missed. >>> >>> So I ask. >>> >>>> >>>>> 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Olivier Lamy >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> Perso the license question doesn't matter >>> a lot as long we have a >>>>>>> compatible one with ASF. >>>>>>> Have a look at tomcat 7 or the cxf >>> distribs which contains ecj and/or >>>>>>> jetty so the Eclipse license is not a >>> trouble for ASF products (sure >>>>>>> at least for me). >>>>>>> My main point is more regarding the >>> governance model and the devs/pmcs >>>>>>> involved for those projects @eclipse. >>>>>>> If I look at the various proposals for >>> aether [1] and sisu [2], the >>>>>>> initial set of committers doesn't show a >>> diversity or a huge >>>>>>> community. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So even if probably I won't be a huge >>> committer, how will it be >>>>>>> possible to participate in the projects ? >>>>>> >>>>>> The process is more or less identical to >>> Apache. The voting starts by a committer nominating someone >>> and the process is tracked in the portal where votes are >>> registered and tracked. Election of committers is the domain >>> of committers and the PMC has to approve the final vote. PMC >>> members are usually committers. As committers vote, they are >>> posted to the mailing list in question so people can see the >>> progress. >>>>>> >>>>>>> And probably some others Maven folks have >>> the same question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Olivier Lamy >>>>>>> Talend : http://talend.com >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/ >>>>>>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/8/18 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>: >>>>>>>> Jason, Brian, Benjamin or any other >>> person involved, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Before voting on this issue, I'd like >>> to get an idea what it means for us. So please allow me a >>> few questions: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a.) how can appache maven committers >>> anticipate on aether over at Eclipse? What if someone (like >>> me) likes to contribute, but wants to make sure that his >>> contributions are also possible to release separately under >>> ALv2? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> b.) is it possible to operate aether >>> without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or plexus DI stuff is fine. >>> Is there any direct guice depending code in aether? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> c.) will the package names remain >>> com.sonatype or will they get changed to org.eclipse.*? This >>> is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel the >>> vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> d.) How long will it take to get the >>> first aether release done at Eclipse? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If there is a chilly way for maven >>> committers to get involved with that stuff over at Eclipse, >>> then this would be a big pro. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> txs and LieGrue, >>>>>>>> strub >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar >>> <and...@hammar.net> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of >>> Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core with EPL >>> licenses - take 2 >>>>>>>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org> >>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, >>> 10:56 AM >>>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /Anders >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thus as decided with Mark >>> and Kristian I relaunch a >>>>>>>>> new vote with a better >>>>>>>>>> scope about what we are voting >>> for. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Next releases of SISU and >>> Aether will be released at >>>>>>>>> Eclipse.org under EPL >>>>>>>>>> 1.0 license. >>>>>>>>>> Before they were published >>> under ASL or dual ASL/EPL >>>>>>>>> licenses thus as >>>>>>>>>> defined in our policy [1] this >>> change put them in >>>>>>>>> Category B [2] and we need >>>>>>>>>> to validate this change by a >>> vote with a majority of >>>>>>>>> the PMC in favor (but >>>>>>>>>> the vote is open to >>> everybody). >>>>>>>>>> I push only one vote for >>> both dependencies as for >>>>>>>>> now I see no reason to >>>>>>>>>> accept one and not the other. >>>>>>>>>> This vote will be open for 6 >>> days as we are in >>>>>>>>> august (If we have not >>>>>>>>>> enough votes at the end of >>> next wednesday will see if >>>>>>>>> we really need to >>>>>>>>>> extend it). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The vote : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [+1] I'm in favor to use as >>> Maven core dependencies >>>>>>>>> SISU and AETHER libraries >>>>>>>>>> published under EPL 1.0 >>> License and released under >>>>>>>>> eclipse.org governance >>>>>>>>>> [+0] No opinion, do what you >>> want. >>>>>>>>>> [-1] I'm against because >>> .... (please elaborate) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Arnaud >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html >>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>> Founder, Apache Maven >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> A party which is not afraid of letting >>> culture, >>>>>> business, and welfare go to ruin completely >>> can >>>>>> be omnipotent for a while. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Jakob Burckhardt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Olivier Lamy >>>>> Talend : http://talend.com >>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>>>> >>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Jason van Zyl >>>> Founder, Apache Maven >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> A party which is not afraid of letting culture, >>>> business, and welfare go to ruin completely can >>>> be omnipotent for a while. >>>> >>>> -- Jakob Burckhardt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Olivier Lamy >>> Talend : http://talend.com >>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> > > Thanks, > > Jason > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Jason van Zyl > Founder, Apache Maven > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > --------------------------------------------------------- > > To do two things at once is to do neither. > > -—Publilius Syrus, Roman slave, first century B.C. > > > >
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