2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>:
>
> On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>
>> So I reformulate my question : 'how to be in the initial set of
>> committers ?" too late ?
>>
>
> Just ask. As I posted previously, anyone who wants to be listed as a 
> committer I will add.
Oups I missed.

So I ask.

>
>> 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>:
>>>
>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Perso the license question doesn't matter a lot as long we have a
>>>> compatible one with ASF.
>>>> Have a look at tomcat 7 or the cxf distribs which contains ecj and/or
>>>> jetty so the Eclipse license is not a trouble for ASF products (sure
>>>> at least for me).
>>>> My main point is more regarding the governance model and the devs/pmcs
>>>> involved for those projects @eclipse.
>>>> If I look at the various proposals for aether [1] and sisu [2], the
>>>> initial set of committers doesn't show a diversity or a huge
>>>> community.
>>>>
>>>> So even if probably I won't be a huge committer, how will it be
>>>> possible to participate in the projects ?
>>>
>>> The process is more or less identical to Apache. The voting starts by a 
>>> committer nominating someone and the process is tracked in the portal where 
>>> votes are registered and tracked. Election of committers is the domain of 
>>> committers and the PMC has to approve the final vote. PMC members are 
>>> usually committers. As committers vote, they are posted to the mailing list 
>>> in question so people can see the progress.
>>>
>>>> And probably some others Maven folks have the same question.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> --
>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>> Talend : http://talend.com
>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
>>>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/8/18 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>:
>>>>> Jason, Brian, Benjamin or any other person involved,
>>>>>
>>>>> Before voting on this issue, I'd like to get an idea what it means for 
>>>>> us. So please allow me a few questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> a.) how can appache maven committers anticipate on aether over at 
>>>>> Eclipse? What if someone (like me) likes to contribute, but wants to make 
>>>>> sure that his contributions are also possible to release separately under 
>>>>> ALv2?
>>>>>
>>>>> b.) is it possible to operate aether without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or 
>>>>> plexus DI stuff is fine. Is there any direct guice depending code in 
>>>>> aether?
>>>>>
>>>>> c.) will the package names remain com.sonatype or will they get changed 
>>>>> to org.eclipse.*? This is important for us to know. If so, we can just 
>>>>> cancel the vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse.
>>>>>
>>>>> d.) How long will it take to get the first aether release done at Eclipse?
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get involved with that 
>>>>> stuff over at Eclipse, then this would be a big pro.
>>>>>
>>>>> txs and LieGrue,
>>>>> strub
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven 
>>>>>> core with EPL licenses - take 2
>>>>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 10:56 AM
>>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a
>>>>>> new vote with a better
>>>>>>> scope about what we are voting for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at
>>>>>> Eclipse.org under EPL
>>>>>>> 1.0 license.
>>>>>>>  Before they were published under ASL or dual ASL/EPL
>>>>>> licenses thus as
>>>>>>> defined in our policy [1] this change put them in
>>>>>> Category B [2] and we need
>>>>>>> to validate this change by a vote with a majority of
>>>>>> the PMC in favor (but
>>>>>>> the vote is open to everybody).
>>>>>>>  I push only one vote for both dependencies as for
>>>>>> now I see no reason to
>>>>>>> accept one and not the other.
>>>>>>>  This vote will be open for 6 days as we are in
>>>>>> august (If we have not
>>>>>>> enough votes at the end of next wednesday will see if
>>>>>> we really need to
>>>>>>> extend it).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The vote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  [+1] I'm in favor to use as Maven core dependencies
>>>>>> SISU and AETHER libraries
>>>>>>> published under EPL 1.0 License and released under
>>>>>> eclipse.org governance
>>>>>>>  [+0] No opinion, do what you want.
>>>>>>>  [-1] I'm against because .... (please elaborate)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arnaud
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html
>>>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>>>>>>>
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>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Olivier Lamy
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> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
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> be omnipotent for a while.
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