Not sure about changing name. But for branding, how about designing a
mascot? No other frameworks have one yet.
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 at 23:01, Anirudh <anirudh2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Release naming sounds like a great idea. But we would need this for the
> minor releases too, since many of our customers seem to be switching
> between different minor releases.
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Chris Olivier <cjolivie...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ha! good one, Ly!
> > Let's not forget, though, a high percentage of us know who Sean Combs
> is. I
> > couldn't tell you one of his songs, his name changes were a
> differentiator.
> >
> > Makes me think of something -- still another possibility could be the
> > naming of major releases. Like Android does, for instance. "MXNet Alien",
> > for instance for 2.0 (alien just being an example since my home PC is an
> > Alienware). No one else is doing that and it doesnt make me think of
> > something uncomfortable like "M-X-Net" does by itself.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:21 PM Ly Nguyen <nguyen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with comments on not breaking momentum by rebranding the name.
> > It's
> > > also my first time hearing about the pronunciation being "mixnet" and
> not
> > > "m-x-net" so that clarification, along with the motivation behind the
> > name,
> > > feature parity, would strengthen the brand more.
> > >
> > > To that point, Sean Comb's evolution of 5 different names was more
> > > confusing than it was helpful. :)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Rahul Huilgol <rahulhuil...@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Even changing the pronunciation is not an easy thing to do IMHO. As
> > > someone
> > > > who has been working on MXNet for the last 8 months, this thread is
> the
> > > > first time I am reading that MXNet is supposed to be pronounced
> > > 'mix-net'.
> > > > We risk losing the momentum even if we try to steer the pronunciation
> > > > towards something which is not popular currently.
> > > >
> > > > I agree Gluon is a friendlier/cooler name. But since we are trying to
> > > > present Gluon as an interface which multiple frameworks can
> implement,
> > > I'm
> > > > not sure if we should try to shift the focus away from MXNet and
> > towards
> > > > Gluon.
> > > >
> > > > As far as adoption goes, I agree with Christopher that public
> > benchmarks
> > > or
> > > > blog posts about how MXNet is better or more usable than other
> > frameworks
> > > > would be worth spending effort on. Rebranding in a way to not lose
> the
> > > > existing momentum honestly sounds more difficult than this :)
> > > >
> > > > By the way, we had some talk of a new friendlier logo sometime back.
> > What
> > > > happened to that?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Aaron Markham <
> > > aaron.s.mark...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Changing branding is hard as we already have some momentum under
> the
> > > > > current name. It's not impossible, and if someone has a fantastic
> > idea
> > > > > and marketing plan for it, it's worth considering.
> > > > >
> > > > > Aside from that, updating the pronunciation could be useful if you
> > > > > like having those gif vs jif debates, but at least people would be
> > > > > talking about it. I personally like the sound of "mix-net" over
> > > > > "em-ex-net". Since we're just starting Youtube videos, I think
> it's a
> > > > > great idea to establish the pronunciation right away in those
> videos.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 1:33 PM, Chris Olivier <
> > cjolivie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Just curious why you think it’s a bad idea — you didn’t say?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:49 PM Chen HY <chenhy12...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> At least people needs a way to speak it.
> > > > > >> Just define its pronunciation as "mix-net" or "m-x-net" and use
> > the
> > > > > agreed
> > > > > >> one everywhere helps a lot.
> > > > > >> Changing name is a bad idea.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2018-04-11 20:29 GMT+01:00 Mu Li <muli....@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Agree that MXNet, the combination of Minerva and CXXNet, which
> > can
> > > > be
> > > > > >> > interpreted as mixed-net, is hard to be pronounced. But
> > > rebranding a
> > > > > name
> > > > > >> > is a very big decision. We need a very carefully designed
> > > marketing
> > > > > plan
> > > > > >> > for it.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > A choice is that we can gradually refer MXNet as a backend,
> and
> > > talk
> > > > > more
> > > > > >> > about the frontend Gluon.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Thomas DELTEIL <
> > > > > >> > thomas.delte...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > FWIW Brainscript is actually a network definition language:
> > > > > >> > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cognitive-toolkit/
> > > > > >> > > BrainScript-Network-Builder
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Thomas
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > 2018-04-11 12:13 GMT-07:00 Chiyuan Zhang <plus...@gmail.com
> >:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > IIRC CNTK renamed to something like brainscript which does
> > not
> > > > > seem
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> > be
> > > > > >> > > > very successful publicity campaign?
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Chiyuan
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:18 AM Chris Olivier <
> > > > > >> cjolivie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Should we consider renaming MXNet to something more
> > > > "friendly"?
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > IMHO, I think this may be related to adoption problems.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > MXNet, CMTK -- both seem sort of sterile and hard to
> use,
> > > > don't
> > > > > >> they?
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Tensorflow, PyTorch, Caffe -- sound cool.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > --
> > > > > >> > > > Semt ftom m ipohne
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
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> > > > > >> Software School Fudan University
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> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rahul Huilgol
> > > >
> > >
> >
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