How about a Capricorn: mixed, cool and easily recognized. On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 at 11:24, xinfan meng <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not sure about changing name. But for branding, how about designing a > mascot? No other frameworks have one yet. > On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 at 23:01, Anirudh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Release naming sounds like a great idea. But we would need this for the >> minor releases too, since many of our customers seem to be switching >> between different minor releases. >> >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Chris Olivier <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Ha! good one, Ly! >> > Let's not forget, though, a high percentage of us know who Sean Combs >> is. I >> > couldn't tell you one of his songs, his name changes were a >> differentiator. >> > >> > Makes me think of something -- still another possibility could be the >> > naming of major releases. Like Android does, for instance. "MXNet >> Alien", >> > for instance for 2.0 (alien just being an example since my home PC is an >> > Alienware). No one else is doing that and it doesnt make me think of >> > something uncomfortable like "M-X-Net" does by itself. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:21 PM Ly Nguyen <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > I agree with comments on not breaking momentum by rebranding the name. >> > It's >> > > also my first time hearing about the pronunciation being "mixnet" and >> not >> > > "m-x-net" so that clarification, along with the motivation behind the >> > name, >> > > feature parity, would strengthen the brand more. >> > > >> > > To that point, Sean Comb's evolution of 5 different names was more >> > > confusing than it was helpful. :) >> > > >> > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Rahul Huilgol < >> [email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Even changing the pronunciation is not an easy thing to do IMHO. As >> > > someone >> > > > who has been working on MXNet for the last 8 months, this thread is >> the >> > > > first time I am reading that MXNet is supposed to be pronounced >> > > 'mix-net'. >> > > > We risk losing the momentum even if we try to steer the >> pronunciation >> > > > towards something which is not popular currently. >> > > > >> > > > I agree Gluon is a friendlier/cooler name. But since we are trying >> to >> > > > present Gluon as an interface which multiple frameworks can >> implement, >> > > I'm >> > > > not sure if we should try to shift the focus away from MXNet and >> > towards >> > > > Gluon. >> > > > >> > > > As far as adoption goes, I agree with Christopher that public >> > benchmarks >> > > or >> > > > blog posts about how MXNet is better or more usable than other >> > frameworks >> > > > would be worth spending effort on. Rebranding in a way to not lose >> the >> > > > existing momentum honestly sounds more difficult than this :) >> > > > >> > > > By the way, we had some talk of a new friendlier logo sometime back. >> > What >> > > > happened to that? >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Aaron Markham < >> > > [email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Changing branding is hard as we already have some momentum under >> the >> > > > > current name. It's not impossible, and if someone has a fantastic >> > idea >> > > > > and marketing plan for it, it's worth considering. >> > > > > >> > > > > Aside from that, updating the pronunciation could be useful if you >> > > > > like having those gif vs jif debates, but at least people would be >> > > > > talking about it. I personally like the sound of "mix-net" over >> > > > > "em-ex-net". Since we're just starting Youtube videos, I think >> it's a >> > > > > great idea to establish the pronunciation right away in those >> videos. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 1:33 PM, Chris Olivier < >> > [email protected]> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > Just curious why you think it’s a bad idea — you didn’t say? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:49 PM Chen HY <[email protected] >> > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> At least people needs a way to speak it. >> > > > > >> Just define its pronunciation as "mix-net" or "m-x-net" and use >> > the >> > > > > agreed >> > > > > >> one everywhere helps a lot. >> > > > > >> Changing name is a bad idea. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> 2018-04-11 20:29 GMT+01:00 Mu Li <[email protected]>: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Agree that MXNet, the combination of Minerva and CXXNet, >> which >> > can >> > > > be >> > > > > >> > interpreted as mixed-net, is hard to be pronounced. But >> > > rebranding a >> > > > > name >> > > > > >> > is a very big decision. We need a very carefully designed >> > > marketing >> > > > > plan >> > > > > >> > for it. >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > A choice is that we can gradually refer MXNet as a backend, >> and >> > > talk >> > > > > more >> > > > > >> > about the frontend Gluon. >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Thomas DELTEIL < >> > > > > >> > [email protected]> >> > > > > >> > wrote: >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > FWIW Brainscript is actually a network definition language: >> > > > > >> > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cognitive-toolkit/ >> > > > > >> > > BrainScript-Network-Builder >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > Thomas >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > 2018-04-11 12:13 GMT-07:00 Chiyuan Zhang < >> [email protected]>: >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > IIRC CNTK renamed to something like brainscript which >> does >> > not >> > > > > seem >> > > > > >> to >> > > > > >> > be >> > > > > >> > > > very successful publicity campaign? >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Chiyuan >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:18 AM Chris Olivier < >> > > > > >> [email protected]> >> > > > > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Should we consider renaming MXNet to something more >> > > > "friendly"? >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > IMHO, I think this may be related to adoption problems. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > MXNet, CMTK -- both seem sort of sterile and hard to >> use, >> > > > don't >> > > > > >> they? >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Tensorflow, PyTorch, Caffe -- sound cool. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > > >> > > > Semt ftom m ipohne >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> -- >> > > > > >> Chen Hanyang 陈涵洋 >> > > > > >> Software School Fudan University >> > > > > >> +86-138-1881-7745 >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Rahul Huilgol >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
