> I have been working under the belief that there were already MyFaces > committers that were willing to work with the ADF codebase. If there > are other developers who want to help with that work, then they can > start by contributing in the usual way, through mailing list posts and > patches. When those contributions are sustained and significant, we > decide whether to offer a contributor karma.
During the extensive PMC discussion on this matter (way back when) I asked the MyFaces committers who supported the idea to step forward and volunteer to work on it. Nobody answered the call. In fact, I was the only one who bothered to look at the source code and I detected several issues which I then raised to the rest of the group. > But, if the donation is going to be dependant on the help of corporate > developers on the Oracle payroll, then I would be -1 on accepting the > donation. I expect that every other ASF Member would feel the same > way. So far this is the case. The existing committers are trying to keep up with a full plate of bugs, maven stuff and intergrating Tobago. Our users are also clamoring for another release and then there is the issue of the solaris zone. Again I ask the existing committers who are going to spend the countless hours to refactor the ADF code to please step forward and identify yourselves ... > Personally, I don't believe it's appropriate to think of the Incubator > as a place to develop a codebase or a community. It's a place where we > vet existing IP and communities. If the MyFaces community, as it > stands today, is not up to the challenge of working with this > codebase, then perhaps it's better that we pass on it for now. If this is not the appropriate role of the incubator then I would agree with you. I'm relatively new to the ASF and the incubator process so I will defer to others on what is appropriate for the incubator. All I know is that the ADF donation cannot be dropped into MyFaces (even the sandbox) in the way it is now. > The other ADF developers have had months and months to become involved > in MyFaces. If they have not become involved by now, I would question > whether these developers are sincerely interested in the codebase and > our community, or just after a paycheck. If it's latter, then we > should pass on their help and look for more suitable volunteers. If > there are no other volunteers to work on this codebase, then the > donation must not be a good fit for the Foundation. We expect that our > codebases can outlive the interest of their creators. If that is not > true of ADF, then it does not belong here. I agree that months have gone by without a serious demonstrated interest in MyFaces. Adam and a few others have been contributing on the dev list but that has been the extent of it. I personally appreciate and welcome that participation but the contribution has been mostly limited to spec discussions, etc. Again, that is very helfpul but to answer Ted's question, no patches or code contributions have been made that I can recall. [snip] > -Ted. sean
