> Plus, maybe instead of referring to the netbeans.org domain, we should
add at the end "that is currently under Oracle's control".

This does sound better.


--emi

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Emilian Bold:
>
>
> > My guess is that an explicit list is better than something vague.
>
>
> You think this is vague? It seems very explicit and all encompassing:
>
> "NetBeans: any source code, object code, patch, tool, sample, graphic,
> specification, manual, documentation, or any other material."
>
> Plus, maybe instead of referring to the netbeans.org domain, we should add
> at the end "that is currently under Oracle's control".
>
> I.e., the point is that Oracle is giving up control of everything related
> to NetBeans -- the description above covers 'everything' in the terms used
> right now in the OCA.
>
> I'm sure that if, instead of the above [or something similar to it], if we
> were going to make an explicit list, we'll leave something out, i.e., we'll
> forget about something and then have problems later. The above, on the
> other hand, encompasses everything.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Emilian Bold <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Shouldn't somebody from Apache legal settle this?
> >
> > My guess is that an explicit list is better than something vague.
> >
> > For example, what happens when netbeans.org is restructured -- how can
> ASF
> > claim that something is covered by the code granted or not?
> >
> >
> > --emi
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >  On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> > >
> > > That would work for me but playing the devil's advocate I assume you
> > > > could stretch that to mean any NetBeans book? ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Maybe adding "that is currently distributed via the netbeans.org
> > > > domain" would fix that?
> > >
> > >
> > > Good point. If that indeed fixes it, we could do it like that.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > ...could we respond to "List of software and other intellectual
> > > > > property covered by this agreement" in the Software Grant Agreement
> > > with
> > > > > the following words:
> > > > >
> > > > > "NetBeans: any source code, object code, patch, tool, sample,
> > graphic,
> > > > > specification, manual, documentation, or any other material." ...
> > > >
> > > > That would work for me but playing the devil's advocate I assume you
> > > > could stretch that to mean any NetBeans book? ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Maybe adding "that is currently distributed via the netbeans.org
> > > > domain" would fix that?
> > > >
> > > > -Bertrand
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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