Yup, that's all true. However, the point is, there's many new features that have not been released yet that are in the Apache NetBeans code base.
Again, I have no fixed opinion myself, and I agree it would be great to have lots of new features and lots of bug fixes. The only point I have, if any at all, is that we will never release those bugs or features until we work through the Modules Review. And the knowledge required to do that review is really minimal, it is not a code review, just a license review. Without completing that, Apache NetBeans will never be released and is, in fact, dead. Gj On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Christian Lenz <[email protected]> wrote: > The page will not show the list of any bug fixes. Only Features and I > think or hope that this list is not completed yet, because it is only a > countable amount of Features. When we have a look into older Major > Releases, there was a lot of more AND the other, 2nd Code donation here is > missing, so PHP too (I think) All, what is not Java will not coming in the > first NB 9 release. Afaik. So no C/C++ Features and no PHP Support. > > Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10 > > Von: Geertjan Wielenga > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. September 2017 09:35 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: Allow code contributions or focus on release only? > > Sure, this is why I opened this discussion thread, to see how people feel > about this. I.e., this is precisely the discussion, do people think we > should focus narrowly on getting the Apache NetBeans release done or should > we focus on bug fixes and features too. All options are open. > > Gj > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > There's heaps of improvements: https://cwiki. > > apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+9.0+-+New+and+Noteworthy > > > > Gj > > > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Emilian Bold <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> We should also allow some new features and improvements. We cannot have > >> NetBeans under Apache for 1 year and basically have no > Apache-contributed > >> feature to show for, only IP cleanup and stuff like that. > >> > >> There's a whole lot of contributors and committers: does everybody want > to > >> do only this? Because I don't! > >> > >> BTW, how many are being involved in the new Apache build system or IP > >> clearance, etc.? I don't see people jumping in on this rather boring > job. > >> > >> So, I *am* doing IP cleanup, but I would most certainly want to commit > new > >> features and bugfixes! I found and fixed a few bugs just these weeks > while > >> working on yameter.com > >> > >> I don't remember agreeing on a feature freeze within Apache, we just got > >> the codebase donated. > >> > >> The community should be able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same > time. > >> If some people are focusing on the build system I don't see why other > >> people can't focus on something else as long as they don't break > something > >> or get in the way? > >> > >> The real question is: are we really distributing the load *and trust* > >> among > >> committers or not? Because it seems to me everybody is very willing to > >> heavily restrict what we should be allowed to do. > >> > >> > >> > >> --emi > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:14 PM, Matthias Bläsing < > >> [email protected] > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > Hey, > >> > > >> > Am Dienstag, den 26.09.2017, 09:17 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: > >> > > [Discuss-Request: Focus on getting a release out or adding > functions] > >> > > >> > if I'm not mistaken, the netbeans 9 feature freeze had already > happened > >> > when the migration to apache began. I would focus on bugfixing and > >> > blocking new features. > >> > > >> > With the apache migration process there is enough development needed, > >> > just to get the codebase releaseable. Libraries need to > >> > removed/replaced, if the are incompatibe with the apache project > >> > (SwingX is LGPL and so can't be distributed with apache netbeans) or > >> > installers to get these libraries at runtime need to be implemented. > >> > > >> > While I agree, that adding new features would pull more potential > >> > contributers, I would consider a stable base more important, to get > >> > going from there. Java 9 is out and the excitement is already there > and > >> > people ask for netbeans 9, so I would prioritize that. > >> > > >> > My 2 cent > >> > > >> > Matthias > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
