I think my first thought is; Have you contributed to NetBeans sources before? What about other OSS code? Not Jira issues or mailing lists; code. If so, why did you do that, and what was your derived value not just from contributing, but also risk versus reward?
There are a lot of things one just can't do until the baseline is in place to scratch the itches they care about. At the moment, my time is extremely valuable. If I can't get turn around on fixes to tools I personally use, then it becomes too much of a cost to me personally. As an example, and this didn't make the NB 8.2 patch, I have Groovy changes to help with running tests. I can't use that right now, and so just keep going along with 8.2. I feel in other gaps with other tools I also use. Once enough IP is cleared, which had been broadcast in channels, then I have a better shot of my time not only helping the community, but me too, and doesn't over tax me, which wouldn't be good in any form. So, until I can do that, then I'm trying to contribute where I can best use my time, for me, such as the web site, as I also used to contribute to that and the Wiki on netbeans.org. I agree Jira, the Wiki, and site eventually need to become a place to see the big picture, and I am sure we will get there, but there is a long way to go, and for me and IMO, we can't worry about who will or will not use NB near term. We have to get it moved over, get infra setup, use it, build it, and then grow it, or we risk burning out or rushing, and it will have the same result you may be expressing here albeit from a different POV. Wade On Feb 15, 2018 05:22, "cowwoc" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I don't mean to offend anyone (not trying to point any fingers, really) > but I want to raise an issue for discussion. > > When Netbeans was moved to Apache I saw a lot of activity in the mailing > list. Everyone was excited and that was great but now I am seeing an > extremely low rate of participation by non-Oracle employees (see > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors) and the > overall commit frequency over the past couple of weeks is extremely low > (see https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/commit-activity). > > I am bringing this to your attention because looking at JIRA's "Created vs > Resolved" issues for the past 30 days we are seeing an exponential growth > of bug reports but a flat amount of resolved issues: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa? > projectOrFilterId=project-12320634&periodName=daily& > daysprevious=30&cumulative=true&versionLabels=major& > selectedProjectId=12320634&reportKey=com.atlassian.jira. > jira-core-reports-plugin%3Acreatedvsresolved-report&atl_ > token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED%7C113ee1575eff5807f4be21c1f06ce3f9 > 6e46f8b2%7Clout&Next=Next > > Speaking from my personal experience as an end-user, I think we've got a > long way to go in terms of fixing regressions before I would consider > jumping from version 8.2 to 9.0. I am routinely running into annoying UI > bugs that were not present in 8.2. Yes, we now have JDK 9 support and this > is a big deal but this yet relevant in my day-to-day work (my projects use > Java 8). My primary concern is using the IDE that will make me the most > productive as a developer. The nightly builds are a step backwards in that > regard. > > Anyway, I just wanted to bring up this issue for discussion. I remember a > lot of people initially asked to be listed as committers, and I'm wondering > where they all went, what (if anything) has turned them off from > contributing at this time, and what can be done to bring them back. > > Reminder: As mentioned in the past, I not have the time to commit fixes > myself. I am intentionally limiting myself to filing bug reports and giving > you feedback as an end-user. I hope you will respect that scope. > > Thank you, > Gili > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
