Fully agree, and Swing and JavaFX stopped development before the concept of 
"responsive UIs" became popular. So they have nothing for that.

I agree that layout via css used to be painful and hard to understand 
sometimes, but Flow and especially Grid Layout has completely solved this for 
me. 

--Toni


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Neil C Smith <[email protected]> 
Gesendet: Samstag, 17. März 2018 11:06
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache 
HTML/Java UI

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018, 07:34 Dmitry Avtonomov, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> ​All I'm saying is that with the last N years of unprecedented 
> attention the web technologies have leaped light years ahead of 
> everything else in terms of basic UI.
> ...
> All I need is a good framework on top of swing that would help me out 
> with those things. In JS there's probably 100s.
>

You could probably manage all the validation and error display requirements you 
mention with HTML5's built in form validation without adding any JS at all.

As someone working heavily with both Swing and HTML/CSS I find the idea that 
Swing's layouts are better quite amusing, or I would if I didn't have to fight 
with them so often! ;-) Mig is about the only one I use from code, Matisse is 
good but I find its output counterintuitive sometimes.

Best wishes,

Neil

> --
Neil C Smith
Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net

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