There are entire classes of applications that cannot be easily managed in HTML today. HTML/JS simply doesn’t scale in it’s current incantation. Without Swing/FX there are no good alternatives in Java.
Regards, Kirk > On Mar 18, 2018, at 12:38 AM, Gili T. <[email protected]> wrote: > > I humbly disagree. Last time I played with Swing layouts I remember them > being able to do responsive UIs even better than HTML. > > The only thing that web does better is more existing layouts out of the > box. That's just a matter of people not technology. > > Gili > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018, 07:39 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Fully agree, and Swing and JavaFX stopped development before the concept >> of "responsive UIs" became popular. So they have nothing for that. >> >> I agree that layout via css used to be painful and hard to understand >> sometimes, but Flow and especially Grid Layout has completely solved this >> for me. >> >> --Toni >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Neil C Smith <[email protected]> >> Gesendet: Samstag, 17. März 2018 11:06 >> An: [email protected] >> Betreff: Re: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache >> HTML/Java UI >> >> On Sat, 17 Mar 2018, 07:34 Dmitry Avtonomov, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> All I'm saying is that with the last N years of unprecedented >>> attention the web technologies have leaped light years ahead of >>> everything else in terms of basic UI. >>> ... >>> All I need is a good framework on top of swing that would help me out >>> with those things. In JS there's probably 100s. >>> >> >> You could probably manage all the validation and error display >> requirements you mention with HTML5's built in form validation without >> adding any JS at all. >> >> As someone working heavily with both Swing and HTML/CSS I find the idea >> that Swing's layouts are better quite amusing, or I would if I didn't have >> to fight with them so often! ;-) Mig is about the only one I use from code, >> Matisse is good but I find its output counterintuitive sometimes. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Neil >> >>> -- >> Neil C Smith >> Artist & Technologist >> www.neilcsmith.net >> >> Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
