I humbly disagree. Last time I played with Swing layouts I remember them
being able to do responsive UIs even better than HTML.

The only thing that web does better is more existing layouts out of the
box.  That's just a matter of people not technology.

Gili

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018, 07:39 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Fully agree, and Swing and JavaFX stopped development before the concept
> of "responsive UIs" became popular. So they have nothing for that.
>
> I agree that layout via css used to be painful and hard to understand
> sometimes, but Flow and especially Grid Layout has completely solved this
> for me.
>
> --Toni
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Neil C Smith <[email protected]>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 17. März 2018 11:06
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache
> HTML/Java UI
>
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2018, 07:34 Dmitry Avtonomov, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > ​All I'm saying is that with the last N years of unprecedented
> > attention the web technologies have leaped light years ahead of
> > everything else in terms of basic UI.
> > ...
> > All I need is a good framework on top of swing that would help me out
> > with those things. In JS there's probably 100s.
> >
>
> You could probably manage all the validation and error display
> requirements you mention with HTML5's built in form validation without
> adding any JS at all.
>
> As someone working heavily with both Swing and HTML/CSS I find the idea
> that Swing's layouts are better quite amusing, or I would if I didn't have
> to fight with them so often! ;-) Mig is about the only one I use from code,
> Matisse is good but I find its output counterintuitive sometimes.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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