Gili, Are we talking about the same concept of responsiveness? In UI development this term is used for guis that adapt to a wide variety of screen sizes and resolutions by applying different layouts, resizing and replacing, rearranging or showing/hiding components depending on size, pixel density, but also by using different input methods, like touch gestures, etc. depending on the device.. CSS has media queries to enable this. Please enlighten us what Swing has to offer here that makes it „even better“.
-Toni Von meinem iPad gesendet > Am 18.03.2018 um 00:38 schrieb Gili T. <[email protected]>: > > I humbly disagree. Last time I played with Swing layouts I remember them > being able to do responsive UIs even better than HTML. > > The only thing that web does better is more existing layouts out of the > box. That's just a matter of people not technology. > > Gili > >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018, 07:39 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Fully agree, and Swing and JavaFX stopped development before the concept >> of "responsive UIs" became popular. So they have nothing for that. >> >> I agree that layout via css used to be painful and hard to understand >> sometimes, but Flow and especially Grid Layout has completely solved this >> for me. >> >> --Toni >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Neil C Smith <[email protected]> >> Gesendet: Samstag, 17. März 2018 11:06 >> An: [email protected] >> Betreff: Re: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache >> HTML/Java UI >> >> On Sat, 17 Mar 2018, 07:34 Dmitry Avtonomov, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> All I'm saying is that with the last N years of unprecedented >>> attention the web technologies have leaped light years ahead of >>> everything else in terms of basic UI. >>> ... >>> All I need is a good framework on top of swing that would help me out >>> with those things. In JS there's probably 100s. >>> >> >> You could probably manage all the validation and error display >> requirements you mention with HTML5's built in form validation without >> adding any JS at all. >> >> As someone working heavily with both Swing and HTML/CSS I find the idea >> that Swing's layouts are better quite amusing, or I would if I didn't have >> to fight with them so often! ;-) Mig is about the only one I use from code, >> Matisse is good but I find its output counterintuitive sometimes. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Neil >> >>> -- >> Neil C Smith >> Artist & Technologist >> www.neilcsmith.net >> >> Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
