> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All 
> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC.
> 
> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP
> PMC unless there is a certain issue.


I think it’s acceptable to invite all active committers. 

>> I suggest initiating a vote at [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> regarding the 
>> proposed consensus and encourage everyone to participate.
>> All PPMC members must cast their votes, while committers are welcome to 
>> leave comments.
> 
> I think this could be a good way. Our current discussion has been
> going on for a relatively long time.
> We may need a clearer context for posting ideas to encourage active
> participation from all.


I agree with it. Perhaps it would be better to summarize to a clearer 
background and start voting. Furthermore, I think it is also important to 
listen to committer's thoughts.

> I agree that this is a concern that the PPMC is less active in the
> graduation discussion and moving forward tasks.

Sorry for late response. I’m a little busy recently.

> 2023年11月30日 16:12,tison <[email protected]> 写道:
> 
>> warm-hearted committer
> 
> My experience is that PMC members generally take more responsibility
> instead of authority on project management.
> 
> If one submits patches, report issues, or evangelize the project, I'd
> regard the people as a committer who commits to evolving the project.
> 
> Then, if any contributor (no matter whether or not he/she is a
> committer already) shows interest in participate in project management
> and showing a good understanding, I'll regard them as a PMC member
> candidate.
> 
> Management includes reviewing/replying other's
> contributions/questions, and take actions on CVE, release, etc.
> 
> I have a loose concern that OpenDAL has a much higher bar on PMC
> members than committers. If you take a look at the News section in our
> status page [1], you will find that we nominate many more committers
> than PMC members, while some of them are around for a while also and
> even acts as release manager.
> 
>> Let's seize this opportunity to nominate more PMC members.
> 
> It's not a goal to "nominate more PMC members", at least not at this
> purpose. But we can review the unspoken bar and nominate new PMC
> member according to our understanding. If you'd like to nominate
> certain people (with their names referred), note that you should start
> a new thread in private@.
> 
> Best,
> tison.
> 
> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/opendal.html
> 
> Cai Lue <[email protected]> 于2023年11月30日周四 15:34写道:
>> 
>> Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy dealing with my university 
>> graduation issues this week.
>> 
>>> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All 
>>> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC.
>>> 
>>> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP
>>> PMC unless there is a certain issue.
>> 
>> It will be acceptable if every warm-hearted committer could be included.
>> 
>> On 2023/11/18 11:13:33 tison wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Here is a sub-object on the project graduation - Have an agreement on the
>>> members of the PMC[1].
>>> 
>>> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All
>>> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC.
>>> 
>>> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP
>>> PMC unless there is a certain issue.
>>> 
>>> And this thread is to reach a consensus on the proposal above.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> tison.
>>> 
>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/issues/3616
>>> 

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