> Initiate an invitation to all committers To be clear, this will happen along with the invitation to mentors (i.e., almost the last step before or along with the formal graduation discussion)?
Given that we still have other tasks before starting a graduation resolution[1], I don't think we should go through this now/first. Best, tison. [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/issues/3283 Xuanwo <[email protected]> 于2023年11月30日周四 17:57写道： > > Taking into account feedback from PPMC members, I propose the following: > > Initiate an invitation to all committers at [email protected] with a three-day > response timeout. Committers interested in taking the responsibilities of > PPMC members can respond according to their own preference. > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, at 16:52, Mingzhuo Yin wrote: > >> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All > >> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. > >> > >> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP > >> PMC unless there is a certain issue. > > > > > > I think it’s acceptable to invite all active committers. > > > >>> I suggest initiating a vote at [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> regarding the > >>> proposed consensus and encourage everyone to participate. > >>> All PPMC members must cast their votes, while committers are welcome to > >>> leave comments. > >> > >> I think this could be a good way. Our current discussion has been > >> going on for a relatively long time. > >> We may need a clearer context for posting ideas to encourage active > >> participation from all. > > > > > > I agree with it. Perhaps it would be better to summarize to a clearer > > background and start voting. Furthermore, I think it is also important > > to listen to committer's thoughts. > > > >> I agree that this is a concern that the PPMC is less active in the > >> graduation discussion and moving forward tasks. > > > > Sorry for late response. I’m a little busy recently. > > > >> 2023年11月30日 16:12，tison <[email protected]> 写道： > >> > >>> warm-hearted committer > >> > >> My experience is that PMC members generally take more responsibility > >> instead of authority on project management. > >> > >> If one submits patches, report issues, or evangelize the project, I'd > >> regard the people as a committer who commits to evolving the project. > >> > >> Then, if any contributor (no matter whether or not he/she is a > >> committer already) shows interest in participate in project management > >> and showing a good understanding, I'll regard them as a PMC member > >> candidate. > >> > >> Management includes reviewing/replying other's > >> contributions/questions, and take actions on CVE, release, etc. > >> > >> I have a loose concern that OpenDAL has a much higher bar on PMC > >> members than committers. If you take a look at the News section in our > >> status page [1], you will find that we nominate many more committers > >> than PMC members, while some of them are around for a while also and > >> even acts as release manager. > >> > >>> Let's seize this opportunity to nominate more PMC members. > >> > >> It's not a goal to "nominate more PMC members", at least not at this > >> purpose. But we can review the unspoken bar and nominate new PMC > >> member according to our understanding. If you'd like to nominate > >> certain people (with their names referred), note that you should start > >> a new thread in private@. > >> > >> Best, > >> tison. > >> > >> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/opendal.html > >> > >> Cai Lue <[email protected]> 于2023年11月30日周四 15:34写道： > >>> > >>> Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy dealing with my university > >>> graduation issues this week. > >>> > >>>> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All > >>>> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. > >>>> > >>>> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP > >>>> PMC unless there is a certain issue. > >>> > >>> It will be acceptable if every warm-hearted committer could be included. > >>> > >>> On 2023/11/18 11:13:33 tison wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Here is a sub-object on the project graduation - Have an agreement on the > >>>> members of the PMC[1]. > >>>> > >>>> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All > >>>> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. > >>>> > >>>> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP > >>>> PMC unless there is a certain issue. > >>>> > >>>> And this thread is to reach a consensus on the proposal above. > >>>> > >>>> Best, > >>>> tison. > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/issues/3616 > >>>> > > -- > Xuanwo
