> I suggest initiating a vote at [email protected] regarding the proposed consensus and 
> encourage everyone to participate.
> All PPMC members must cast their votes, while committers are welcome to leave 
> comments.

I think this could be a good way. Our current discussion has been
going on for a relatively long time.
We may need a clearer context for posting ideas to encourage active
participation from all.

Sincerely,
Suyan

Xuanwo <[email protected]> 于2023年11月30日周四 15:19写道:
>
> I suggest initiating a vote at [email protected] regarding the proposed consensus and 
> encourage everyone to participate. All PPMC members must cast their votes, 
> while committers are welcome to leave comments.
>
> We can make sure all PPMC members presents their ideas on this consensus in 
> this way.
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, at 15:06, tison wrote:
> >> But, currently, it seems rare they are going to say anything.
> >> I am curious, why?
> >
> > I agree that this is a concern that the PPMC is less active in the
> > graduation discussion and moving forward tasks.
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> > Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2023年11月30日周四 14:46写道:
> >>
> >> I don't think we should follow lazy consensus for this very important 
> >> thing.
> >> The whole thing of graduation is about making sure the PMC is taking
> >> over the oversight responsibilities from mentors.
> >> But, currently, it seems rare they are going to say anything.
> >> I am curious, why?
> >>
> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>
> >> Xuanwo <[email protected]> 于2023年11月29日周三 22:40写道:
> >> >
> >> > > I'd resume this discussion. AFAICS, the lazy consensus for this topic
> >> > > among the PPMC is mapping the current PPMC members and committers
> >> > > structure to the graduated PMC members and committers structure.
> >> >
> >> > I'm ok with this.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, at 09:15, tison wrote:
> >> > > I'd resume this discussion. AFAICS, the lazy consensus for this topic
> >> > > among the PPMC is mapping the current PPMC members and committers
> >> > > structure to the graduated PMC members and committers structure.
> >> > >
> >> > > This is doable and actually what Kvrocks does during its graduation.
> >> > > We can regard this round as a chance to review our
> >> > > contributors/committers and nominate them if desired.
> >> > >
> >> > > If this is the consensus, we can make an explicit agreement.
> >> > >
> >> > > Best,
> >> > > tison.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chojan Shang <[email protected]> 于2023年11月18日周六 21:16写道:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I wholeheartedly endorse Xuanwo's perspective.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Let's promote actively involved committers as PMC members, 
> >> > >> recognizing their recent contributions. Instead of promoting 
> >> > >> committers solely based on our transition to TLP, let's emphasize 
> >> > >> their increased responsibilities and active involvement in project 
> >> > >> governance. This approach aligns with our commitment to fostering a 
> >> > >> culture of collaboration.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> This move marks an exciting milestone in our path towards becoming a 
> >> > >> TLP.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Best regards,
> >> > >> PsiACE
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 2023/11/18 11:13:33 tison wrote:
> >> > >> > Hi,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Here is a sub-object on the project graduation - Have an agreement 
> >> > >> > on the
> >> > >> > members of the PMC[1].
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. 
> >> > >> > All
> >> > >> > members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in 
> >> > >> > the TLP
> >> > >> > PMC unless there is a certain issue.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > And this thread is to reach a consensus on the proposal above.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Best,
> >> > >> > tison.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/issues/3616
> >> > >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Xuanwo
>
> --
> Xuanwo

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