Taking into account feedback from PPMC members, I propose the following: Initiate an invitation to all committers at [email protected] with a three-day response timeout. Committers interested in taking the responsibilities of PPMC members can respond according to their own preference.
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, at 16:52, Mingzhuo Yin wrote: >> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All >> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. >> >> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP >> PMC unless there is a certain issue. > > > I think it’s acceptable to invite all active committers. > >>> I suggest initiating a vote at [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> regarding the >>> proposed consensus and encourage everyone to participate. >>> All PPMC members must cast their votes, while committers are welcome to >>> leave comments. >> >> I think this could be a good way. Our current discussion has been >> going on for a relatively long time. >> We may need a clearer context for posting ideas to encourage active >> participation from all. > > > I agree with it. Perhaps it would be better to summarize to a clearer > background and start voting. Furthermore, I think it is also important > to listen to committer's thoughts. > >> I agree that this is a concern that the PPMC is less active in the >> graduation discussion and moving forward tasks. > > Sorry for late response. I’m a little busy recently. > >> 2023年11月30日 16:12，tison <[email protected]> 写道： >> >>> warm-hearted committer >> >> My experience is that PMC members generally take more responsibility >> instead of authority on project management. >> >> If one submits patches, report issues, or evangelize the project, I'd >> regard the people as a committer who commits to evolving the project. >> >> Then, if any contributor (no matter whether or not he/she is a >> committer already) shows interest in participate in project management >> and showing a good understanding, I'll regard them as a PMC member >> candidate. >> >> Management includes reviewing/replying other's >> contributions/questions, and take actions on CVE, release, etc. >> >> I have a loose concern that OpenDAL has a much higher bar on PMC >> members than committers. If you take a look at the News section in our >> status page [1], you will find that we nominate many more committers >> than PMC members, while some of them are around for a while also and >> even acts as release manager. >> >>> Let's seize this opportunity to nominate more PMC members. >> >> It's not a goal to "nominate more PMC members", at least not at this >> purpose. But we can review the unspoken bar and nominate new PMC >> member according to our understanding. If you'd like to nominate >> certain people (with their names referred), note that you should start >> a new thread in private@. >> >> Best, >> tison. >> >> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/opendal.html >> >> Cai Lue <[email protected]> 于2023年11月30日周四 15:34写道： >>> >>> Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy dealing with my university >>> graduation issues this week. >>> >>>> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All >>>> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. >>>> >>>> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP >>>> PMC unless there is a certain issue. >>> >>> It will be acceptable if every warm-hearted committer could be included. >>> >>> On 2023/11/18 11:13:33 tison wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Here is a sub-object on the project graduation - Have an agreement on the >>>> members of the PMC[1]. >>>> >>>> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All >>>> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. >>>> >>>> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP >>>> PMC unless there is a certain issue. >>>> >>>> And this thread is to reach a consensus on the proposal above. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> tison. >>>> >>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/issues/3616 >>>> -- Xuanwo
