Here is our policy for what it is worth:
http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html

Note: our policy has some h(y|i)st(e|o)rical reasons for existence as
well, ones which OpenEJB may not feel necessary...

On 29 May 2012 15:06, Stephen Connolly <[email protected]> wrote:
> My understanding is that if you depend on the binaries and not the
> source, then you are "ok"... over in Maven Land we instituted a policy
> that Category B licenses (http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html) as
> dependencies in core had to be approved by a strict majority of the
> PMC. Plugins published at Maven are allowed to add Category B licenses
> without such approval, but we felt that core is too core.
>
> On 29 May 2012 15:00, dsh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> To answer your question - I found this site [1]. Tho, don't know how
>> authoritative it is. Concerning RAP - I mentioned it cause it provides
>> a way to deal with UI programming in a more traditional way like you
>> would do if using AWT/SWT/Swing or MFC... not sure whether we should
>> consider it for the task at hand. Maybe at least probably not for the
>> default implementation of a TomEE UI. Sorry if I distracted you with
>> my comment about RAP :)
>>
>> [1] http://thewiki4opentech.org/index.php/Licenses_compatibility
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Thiago Veronezi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Are we going to have problems with the "Eclipse Public License" and the
>>> "Apache Licence". I don't find a place stating they are compatible.
>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/legal/eplfaq.php
>>>
>>> []s,
>>> Thiago.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: tomee webapp proposal
>>> To: [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>> nop :p
>>>
>>> - Romain
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/5/29 dsh <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> You are a troll again aren't you :D
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > +1 for refrech button (wouldnt loose any resource for a refesh of the
>>>> logs)
>>>> >
>>>> > eclipse eclipse...all modular apps are not eclipse like :p (i hope so at
>>>> > least)
>>>> >
>>>> > - Romain
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2012/5/29 Thiago Veronezi <[email protected]>
>>>> >
>>>> >> There is no secret with long-polling. It is just an ajax call that
>>> hangs
>>>> >> longer than the usual ones. Websockets are different: the browser
>>>> should be
>>>> >> able to handle it.
>>>> >> To make it simple we can just add a "refresh button", so we can load
>>> the
>>>> >> log with regular ajax calls. Once the first version of this new
>>>> interface
>>>> >> is done we can add the autorefresh functionality. What do you think?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >> Eclipse RAP
>>>> >> First time a hear about it. It looks very cool!!! I will definitely
>>>> take a
>>>> >> look. Thanks!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>  Thiago.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:40 AM, dsh <[email protected]>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Concerning long-polling (Comet, WebSockets etc. pp), depending on the
>>>> >> > framework you use the actual polling implementation is getting
>>>> >> > abstracted. So the user would get the impl depending on the
>>>> >> > capabilities provided by the browser and you on the other hand would
>>>> >> > not need to worrie about such technical details. I know Dojo does
>>> such
>>>> >> > abstraction... not sure about jQuery...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > PS: The Mockup reminds me very much about the Eclipse
>>> perspective/view
>>>> >> > concept. Probably using Eclipse RAP for the UI would be an
>>>> >> > overkill/unsuitable but there you would get such UI
>>>> >> > lay-outing/structuring mechanisms for free :)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Cheers
>>>> >> > Daniel
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Thiago Veronezi <[email protected]
>>>> >
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> > > Yes, It makes more sense, otherwise it would be very hard to read
>>>> the
>>>> >> > > log... which doesn't make sense. :O)
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >>> Will it be a live log viewer where new log entries are floating
>>> in
>>>> >> > > similar to digg.com?
>>>> >> > > Yes. For that I plan to use long-polling (something I have
>>>> experience
>>>> >> > > with), but websockets are the perfect alternative if we have this
>>>> >> feature
>>>> >> > > available at the server side.
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > I created another mockup with a new position for the log panel and
>>>> two
>>>> >> > > extra panels (MDB and Webservices):
>>>> >> > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_v2.png
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > What you guys think?
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > Thanks for the feedback!
>>>> >> > > []s,
>>>> >> > > Thiago.
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:27 AM, dsh <[email protected]
>>>> >
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >> One thought concerning the log view - maybe it would make sense to
>>>> >> > >> have it at the bottom where it could span the entire screen so log
>>>> >> > >> messages can be digested easier. Will it be a live log viewer
>>> where
>>>> >> > >> new log entries are floating in similar to digg.com?
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> > >> Cheers
>>>> >> > >> Daniel
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> > >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Thiago Veronezi <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> wrote:
>>>> >> > >> > Guys,
>>>> >> > >> > I need your feedback about what I have in mind for the new
>>>> webapp.
>>>> >> > >> > Basically I want to replace all the pages we have by a new one
>>>> which
>>>> >> > will
>>>> >> > >> > give the user the access to a script console, the jndi tree and
>>>> the
>>>> >> > tomee
>>>> >> > >> > log file.
>>>> >> > >> > Please check the mockup I created for it:
>>>> >> > >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_webapp.png
>>>> >> > >> >
>>>> >> > >> > What do you think?
>>>> >> > >> >
>>>> >> > >> > Thanks,
>>>> >> > >> > Thiago.
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>>

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