tomcat bring a compiler under this lincence i think - Romain
2012/5/29 David Blevins <[email protected]> > > On May 29, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Thiago Veronezi wrote: > > > I dont think we should use Eclipse at this time, but at least now we have > > documented something about the licences compatibility issue. > > Thanks guys! > > Note, we already ship code in TomEE under the EPL and is listed in the > LICENSE file. > > That said, keeping the binaries super tiny is definitely a plus. > > -David > > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Stephen Connolly < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Here is our policy for what it is worth: > >> http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html > >> > >> Note: our policy has some h(y|i)st(e|o)rical reasons for existence as > >> well, ones which OpenEJB may not feel necessary... > >> > >> On 29 May 2012 15:06, Stephen Connolly <[email protected] > > > >> wrote: > >>> My understanding is that if you depend on the binaries and not the > >>> source, then you are "ok"... over in Maven Land we instituted a policy > >>> that Category B licenses (http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html) as > >>> dependencies in core had to be approved by a strict majority of the > >>> PMC. Plugins published at Maven are allowed to add Category B licenses > >>> without such approval, but we felt that core is too core. > >>> > >>> On 29 May 2012 15:00, dsh <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> To answer your question - I found this site [1]. Tho, don't know how > >>>> authoritative it is. Concerning RAP - I mentioned it cause it provides > >>>> a way to deal with UI programming in a more traditional way like you > >>>> would do if using AWT/SWT/Swing or MFC... not sure whether we should > >>>> consider it for the task at hand. Maybe at least probably not for the > >>>> default implementation of a TomEE UI. Sorry if I distracted you with > >>>> my comment about RAP :) > >>>> > >>>> [1] http://thewiki4opentech.org/index.php/Licenses_compatibility > >>>> > >>>> Cheers > >>>> Daniel > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Thiago Veronezi <[email protected] > > > >> wrote: > >>>>> Are we going to have problems with the "Eclipse Public License" and > the > >>>>> "Apache Licence". I don't find a place stating they are compatible. > >>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html > >>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/legal/eplfaq.php > >>>>> > >>>>> []s, > >>>>> Thiago. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> > >>>>> Date: Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:14 AM > >>>>> Subject: Re: tomee webapp proposal > >>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> nop :p > >>>>> > >>>>> - Romain > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 2012/5/29 dsh <[email protected]> > >>>>> > >>>>>> You are a troll again aren't you :D > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau > >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> +1 for refrech button (wouldnt loose any resource for a refesh of > >> the > >>>>>> logs) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> eclipse eclipse...all modular apps are not eclipse like :p (i hope > >> so at > >>>>>>> least) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - Romain > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2012/5/29 Thiago Veronezi <[email protected]> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> There is no secret with long-polling. It is just an ajax call that > >>>>> hangs > >>>>>>>> longer than the usual ones. Websockets are different: the browser > >>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> able to handle it. > >>>>>>>> To make it simple we can just add a "refresh button", so we can > >> load > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>> log with regular ajax calls. Once the first version of this new > >>>>>> interface > >>>>>>>> is done we can add the autorefresh functionality. What do you > >> think? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Eclipse RAP > >>>>>>>> First time a hear about it. It looks very cool!!! I will > definitely > >>>>>> take a > >>>>>>>> look. Thanks! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thiago. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:40 AM, dsh < > >> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Concerning long-polling (Comet, WebSockets etc. pp), depending > >> on the > >>>>>>>>> framework you use the actual polling implementation is getting > >>>>>>>>> abstracted. So the user would get the impl depending on the > >>>>>>>>> capabilities provided by the browser and you on the other hand > >> would > >>>>>>>>> not need to worrie about such technical details. I know Dojo does > >>>>> such > >>>>>>>>> abstraction... not sure about jQuery... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PS: The Mockup reminds me very much about the Eclipse > >>>>> perspective/view > >>>>>>>>> concept. Probably using Eclipse RAP for the UI would be an > >>>>>>>>> overkill/unsuitable but there you would get such UI > >>>>>>>>> lay-outing/structuring mechanisms for free :) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>>> Daniel > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Thiago Veronezi < > >> [email protected] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Yes, It makes more sense, otherwise it would be very hard to > >> read > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> log... which doesn't make sense. :O) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Will it be a live log viewer where new log entries are > >> floating > >>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>> similar to digg.com? > >>>>>>>>>> Yes. For that I plan to use long-polling (something I have > >>>>>> experience > >>>>>>>>>> with), but websockets are the perfect alternative if we have > >> this > >>>>>>>> feature > >>>>>>>>>> available at the server side. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I created another mockup with a new position for the log panel > >> and > >>>>>> two > >>>>>>>>>> extra panels (MDB and Webservices): > >>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_v2.png > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> What you guys think? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback! > >>>>>>>>>> []s, > >>>>>>>>>> Thiago. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:27 AM, dsh < > >> [email protected] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> One thought concerning the log view - maybe it would make > >> sense to > >>>>>>>>>>> have it at the bottom where it could span the entire screen > >> so log > >>>>>>>>>>> messages can be digested easier. Will it be a live log viewer > >>>>> where > >>>>>>>>>>> new log entries are floating in similar to digg.com? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Thiago Veronezi < > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Guys, > >>>>>>>>>>>> I need your feedback about what I have in mind for the new > >>>>>> webapp. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Basically I want to replace all the pages we have by a new > >> one > >>>>>> which > >>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>> give the user the access to a script console, the jndi tree > >> and > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> tomee > >>>>>>>>>>>> log file. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please check the mockup I created for it: > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_webapp.png > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thiago. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > >
