On May 29, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: > tomcat bring a compiler under this lincence i think
Exactly. -David > > 2012/5/29 David Blevins <[email protected]> > >> >> On May 29, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Thiago Veronezi wrote: >> >>> I dont think we should use Eclipse at this time, but at least now we have >>> documented something about the licences compatibility issue. >>> Thanks guys! >> >> Note, we already ship code in TomEE under the EPL and is listed in the >> LICENSE file. >> >> That said, keeping the binaries super tiny is definitely a plus. >> >> -David >> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Stephen Connolly < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Here is our policy for what it is worth: >>>> http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html >>>> >>>> Note: our policy has some h(y|i)st(e|o)rical reasons for existence as >>>> well, ones which OpenEJB may not feel necessary... >>>> >>>> On 29 May 2012 15:06, Stephen Connolly <[email protected] >>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> My understanding is that if you depend on the binaries and not the >>>>> source, then you are "ok"... over in Maven Land we instituted a policy >>>>> that Category B licenses (http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html) as >>>>> dependencies in core had to be approved by a strict majority of the >>>>> PMC. Plugins published at Maven are allowed to add Category B licenses >>>>> without such approval, but we felt that core is too core. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 May 2012 15:00, dsh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> To answer your question - I found this site [1]. Tho, don't know how >>>>>> authoritative it is. Concerning RAP - I mentioned it cause it provides >>>>>> a way to deal with UI programming in a more traditional way like you >>>>>> would do if using AWT/SWT/Swing or MFC... not sure whether we should >>>>>> consider it for the task at hand. Maybe at least probably not for the >>>>>> default implementation of a TomEE UI. Sorry if I distracted you with >>>>>> my comment about RAP :) >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://thewiki4opentech.org/index.php/Licenses_compatibility >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Daniel >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Thiago Veronezi <[email protected] >>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Are we going to have problems with the "Eclipse Public License" and >> the >>>>>>> "Apache Licence". I don't find a place stating they are compatible. >>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html >>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/legal/eplfaq.php >>>>>>> >>>>>>> []s, >>>>>>> Thiago. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:14 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: tomee webapp proposal >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> nop :p >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Romain >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2012/5/29 dsh <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are a troll again aren't you :D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> +1 for refrech button (wouldnt loose any resource for a refesh of >>>> the >>>>>>>> logs) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> eclipse eclipse...all modular apps are not eclipse like :p (i hope >>>> so at >>>>>>>>> least) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Romain >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2012/5/29 Thiago Veronezi <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is no secret with long-polling. It is just an ajax call that >>>>>>> hangs >>>>>>>>>> longer than the usual ones. Websockets are different: the browser >>>>>>>> should be >>>>>>>>>> able to handle it. >>>>>>>>>> To make it simple we can just add a "refresh button", so we can >>>> load >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> log with regular ajax calls. Once the first version of this new >>>>>>>> interface >>>>>>>>>> is done we can add the autorefresh functionality. What do you >>>> think? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse RAP >>>>>>>>>> First time a hear about it. It looks very cool!!! I will >> definitely >>>>>>>> take a >>>>>>>>>> look. Thanks! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thiago. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:40 AM, dsh < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Concerning long-polling (Comet, WebSockets etc. pp), depending >>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>> framework you use the actual polling implementation is getting >>>>>>>>>>> abstracted. So the user would get the impl depending on the >>>>>>>>>>> capabilities provided by the browser and you on the other hand >>>> would >>>>>>>>>>> not need to worrie about such technical details. I know Dojo does >>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> abstraction... not sure about jQuery... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> PS: The Mockup reminds me very much about the Eclipse >>>>>>> perspective/view >>>>>>>>>>> concept. Probably using Eclipse RAP for the UI would be an >>>>>>>>>>> overkill/unsuitable but there you would get such UI >>>>>>>>>>> lay-outing/structuring mechanisms for free :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Thiago Veronezi < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, It makes more sense, otherwise it would be very hard to >>>> read >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> log... which doesn't make sense. :O) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will it be a live log viewer where new log entries are >>>> floating >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> similar to digg.com? >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. For that I plan to use long-polling (something I have >>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>> with), but websockets are the perfect alternative if we have >>>> this >>>>>>>>>> feature >>>>>>>>>>>> available at the server side. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I created another mockup with a new position for the log panel >>>> and >>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>>>>>> extra panels (MDB and Webservices): >>>>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_v2.png >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What you guys think? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback! >>>>>>>>>>>> []s, >>>>>>>>>>>> Thiago. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:27 AM, dsh < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One thought concerning the log view - maybe it would make >>>> sense to >>>>>>>>>>>>> have it at the bottom where it could span the entire screen >>>> so log >>>>>>>>>>>>> messages can be digested easier. Will it be a live log viewer >>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>>> new log entries are floating in similar to digg.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Thiago Veronezi < >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guys, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need your feedback about what I have in mind for the new >>>>>>>> webapp. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically I want to replace all the pages we have by a new >>>> one >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> give the user the access to a script console, the jndi tree >>>> and >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> tomee >>>>>>>>>>>>>> log file. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please check the mockup I created for it: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_webapp.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thiago. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
