I dont think we should use Eclipse at this time, but at least now we have documented something about the licences compatibility issue. Thanks guys!
[]s, Thiago. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Stephen Connolly < [email protected]> wrote: > Here is our policy for what it is worth: > http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html > > Note: our policy has some h(y|i)st(e|o)rical reasons for existence as > well, ones which OpenEJB may not feel necessary... > > On 29 May 2012 15:06, Stephen Connolly <[email protected]> > wrote: > > My understanding is that if you depend on the binaries and not the > > source, then you are "ok"... over in Maven Land we instituted a policy > > that Category B licenses (http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html) as > > dependencies in core had to be approved by a strict majority of the > > PMC. Plugins published at Maven are allowed to add Category B licenses > > without such approval, but we felt that core is too core. > > > > On 29 May 2012 15:00, dsh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> To answer your question - I found this site [1]. Tho, don't know how > >> authoritative it is. Concerning RAP - I mentioned it cause it provides > >> a way to deal with UI programming in a more traditional way like you > >> would do if using AWT/SWT/Swing or MFC... not sure whether we should > >> consider it for the task at hand. Maybe at least probably not for the > >> default implementation of a TomEE UI. Sorry if I distracted you with > >> my comment about RAP :) > >> > >> [1] http://thewiki4opentech.org/index.php/Licenses_compatibility > >> > >> Cheers > >> Daniel > >> > >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Thiago Veronezi <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> Are we going to have problems with the "Eclipse Public License" and the > >>> "Apache Licence". I don't find a place stating they are compatible. > >>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html > >>> http://www.eclipse.org/legal/eplfaq.php > >>> > >>> []s, > >>> Thiago. > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> > >>> Date: Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:14 AM > >>> Subject: Re: tomee webapp proposal > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> nop :p > >>> > >>> - Romain > >>> > >>> > >>> 2012/5/29 dsh <[email protected]> > >>> > >>>> You are a troll again aren't you :D > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > +1 for refrech button (wouldnt loose any resource for a refesh of > the > >>>> logs) > >>>> > > >>>> > eclipse eclipse...all modular apps are not eclipse like :p (i hope > so at > >>>> > least) > >>>> > > >>>> > - Romain > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > 2012/5/29 Thiago Veronezi <[email protected]> > >>>> > > >>>> >> There is no secret with long-polling. It is just an ajax call that > >>> hangs > >>>> >> longer than the usual ones. Websockets are different: the browser > >>>> should be > >>>> >> able to handle it. > >>>> >> To make it simple we can just add a "refresh button", so we can > load > >>> the > >>>> >> log with regular ajax calls. Once the first version of this new > >>>> interface > >>>> >> is done we can add the autorefresh functionality. What do you > think? > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> Eclipse RAP > >>>> >> First time a hear about it. It looks very cool!!! I will definitely > >>>> take a > >>>> >> look. Thanks! > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Thiago. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:40 AM, dsh < > [email protected]> > >>>> >> wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Concerning long-polling (Comet, WebSockets etc. pp), depending > on the > >>>> >> > framework you use the actual polling implementation is getting > >>>> >> > abstracted. So the user would get the impl depending on the > >>>> >> > capabilities provided by the browser and you on the other hand > would > >>>> >> > not need to worrie about such technical details. I know Dojo does > >>> such > >>>> >> > abstraction... not sure about jQuery... > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > PS: The Mockup reminds me very much about the Eclipse > >>> perspective/view > >>>> >> > concept. Probably using Eclipse RAP for the UI would be an > >>>> >> > overkill/unsuitable but there you would get such UI > >>>> >> > lay-outing/structuring mechanisms for free :) > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > Cheers > >>>> >> > Daniel > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Thiago Veronezi < > [email protected] > >>>> > > >>>> >> > wrote: > >>>> >> > > Yes, It makes more sense, otherwise it would be very hard to > read > >>>> the > >>>> >> > > log... which doesn't make sense. :O) > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > >>> Will it be a live log viewer where new log entries are > floating > >>> in > >>>> >> > > similar to digg.com? > >>>> >> > > Yes. For that I plan to use long-polling (something I have > >>>> experience > >>>> >> > > with), but websockets are the perfect alternative if we have > this > >>>> >> feature > >>>> >> > > available at the server side. > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > I created another mockup with a new position for the log panel > and > >>>> two > >>>> >> > > extra panels (MDB and Webservices): > >>>> >> > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_v2.png > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > What you guys think? > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > Thanks for the feedback! > >>>> >> > > []s, > >>>> >> > > Thiago. > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:27 AM, dsh < > [email protected] > >>>> > > >>>> >> > wrote: > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > >> One thought concerning the log view - maybe it would make > sense to > >>>> >> > >> have it at the bottom where it could span the entire screen > so log > >>>> >> > >> messages can be digested easier. Will it be a live log viewer > >>> where > >>>> >> > >> new log entries are floating in similar to digg.com? > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> Cheers > >>>> >> > >> Daniel > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Thiago Veronezi < > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >> wrote: > >>>> >> > >> > Guys, > >>>> >> > >> > I need your feedback about what I have in mind for the new > >>>> webapp. > >>>> >> > >> > Basically I want to replace all the pages we have by a new > one > >>>> which > >>>> >> > will > >>>> >> > >> > give the user the access to a script console, the jndi tree > and > >>>> the > >>>> >> > tomee > >>>> >> > >> > log file. > >>>> >> > >> > Please check the mockup I created for it: > >>>> >> > >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_webapp.png > >>>> >> > >> > > >>>> >> > >> > What do you think? > >>>> >> > >> > > >>>> >> > >> > Thanks, > >>>> >> > >> > Thiago. > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >>>> >
