On May 29, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Thiago Veronezi wrote: > I dont think we should use Eclipse at this time, but at least now we have > documented something about the licences compatibility issue. > Thanks guys!
Note, we already ship code in TomEE under the EPL and is listed in the LICENSE file. That said, keeping the binaries super tiny is definitely a plus. -David > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Stephen Connolly < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Here is our policy for what it is worth: >> http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html >> >> Note: our policy has some h(y|i)st(e|o)rical reasons for existence as >> well, ones which OpenEJB may not feel necessary... >> >> On 29 May 2012 15:06, Stephen Connolly <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> My understanding is that if you depend on the binaries and not the >>> source, then you are "ok"... over in Maven Land we instituted a policy >>> that Category B licenses (http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html) as >>> dependencies in core had to be approved by a strict majority of the >>> PMC. Plugins published at Maven are allowed to add Category B licenses >>> without such approval, but we felt that core is too core. >>> >>> On 29 May 2012 15:00, dsh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> To answer your question - I found this site [1]. Tho, don't know how >>>> authoritative it is. Concerning RAP - I mentioned it cause it provides >>>> a way to deal with UI programming in a more traditional way like you >>>> would do if using AWT/SWT/Swing or MFC... not sure whether we should >>>> consider it for the task at hand. Maybe at least probably not for the >>>> default implementation of a TomEE UI. Sorry if I distracted you with >>>> my comment about RAP :) >>>> >>>> [1] http://thewiki4opentech.org/index.php/Licenses_compatibility >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Thiago Veronezi <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>> Are we going to have problems with the "Eclipse Public License" and the >>>>> "Apache Licence". I don't find a place stating they are compatible. >>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html >>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/legal/eplfaq.php >>>>> >>>>> []s, >>>>> Thiago. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:14 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: tomee webapp proposal >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> nop :p >>>>> >>>>> - Romain >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2012/5/29 dsh <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> You are a troll again aren't you :D >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> +1 for refrech button (wouldnt loose any resource for a refesh of >> the >>>>>> logs) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> eclipse eclipse...all modular apps are not eclipse like :p (i hope >> so at >>>>>>> least) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Romain >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2012/5/29 Thiago Veronezi <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is no secret with long-polling. It is just an ajax call that >>>>> hangs >>>>>>>> longer than the usual ones. Websockets are different: the browser >>>>>> should be >>>>>>>> able to handle it. >>>>>>>> To make it simple we can just add a "refresh button", so we can >> load >>>>> the >>>>>>>> log with regular ajax calls. Once the first version of this new >>>>>> interface >>>>>>>> is done we can add the autorefresh functionality. What do you >> think? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Eclipse RAP >>>>>>>> First time a hear about it. It looks very cool!!! I will definitely >>>>>> take a >>>>>>>> look. Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thiago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:40 AM, dsh < >> [email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Concerning long-polling (Comet, WebSockets etc. pp), depending >> on the >>>>>>>>> framework you use the actual polling implementation is getting >>>>>>>>> abstracted. So the user would get the impl depending on the >>>>>>>>> capabilities provided by the browser and you on the other hand >> would >>>>>>>>> not need to worrie about such technical details. I know Dojo does >>>>> such >>>>>>>>> abstraction... not sure about jQuery... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PS: The Mockup reminds me very much about the Eclipse >>>>> perspective/view >>>>>>>>> concept. Probably using Eclipse RAP for the UI would be an >>>>>>>>> overkill/unsuitable but there you would get such UI >>>>>>>>> lay-outing/structuring mechanisms for free :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Thiago Veronezi < >> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Yes, It makes more sense, otherwise it would be very hard to >> read >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> log... which doesn't make sense. :O) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Will it be a live log viewer where new log entries are >> floating >>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> similar to digg.com? >>>>>>>>>> Yes. For that I plan to use long-polling (something I have >>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>> with), but websockets are the perfect alternative if we have >> this >>>>>>>> feature >>>>>>>>>> available at the server side. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I created another mockup with a new position for the log panel >> and >>>>>> two >>>>>>>>>> extra panels (MDB and Webservices): >>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_v2.png >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What you guys think? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback! >>>>>>>>>> []s, >>>>>>>>>> Thiago. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:27 AM, dsh < >> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One thought concerning the log view - maybe it would make >> sense to >>>>>>>>>>> have it at the bottom where it could span the entire screen >> so log >>>>>>>>>>> messages can be digested easier. Will it be a live log viewer >>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> new log entries are floating in similar to digg.com? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Thiago Veronezi < >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Guys, >>>>>>>>>>>> I need your feedback about what I have in mind for the new >>>>>> webapp. >>>>>>>>>>>> Basically I want to replace all the pages we have by a new >> one >>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>> give the user the access to a script console, the jndi tree >> and >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> tomee >>>>>>>>>>>> log file. >>>>>>>>>>>> Please check the mockup I created for it: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_webapp.png >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> Thiago. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
