On 7 February 2014 00:45, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > On 6 February 2014 23:42, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> jan i wrote: > >> > >>> I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the > >>> cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in > >>> here) > >>> you will see my warning. > >>> > >> > >> The idea was to replace the CAPTCHA with something better, otherwise we > >> can (should) keep the current CAPTCHA and discuss a better solution in > the > >> meantime. > >> > >> The cats cause incompatibilities and other issues, but if they are much > >> more effective than the replacement let's go back to the cats as soon as > >> possible and in the "see what's best to replace them (but something MORE > >> effective, not LESS effective!). > >> > > > > May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The > jira > > was implemented by the word ! > > > > The exact wording is: > > > > "Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It > > doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead > of > > HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 -> > Recommended > > solution: drop it entirely. " > > > > That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something > > more effective slips my mind. > > > > later the jira contains: > > > > "accessibility suggestion from Tyler (haven't tested MediaWiki > > compatibility): there is a website which provides text-based CAPTCHA's in > > the form of logic questions, math problems, etc. It provides an XML API. > > See http://www.textcaptcha.com/ " > > > > Apart from the facts, thats its a suggestion and not a decision (like > that > > above), we do not use extensions that are not supported by mediawiki > > (meaning downloadable from mediawiki.com and verified for our release). > As > > a sidenote, that captcha is pretty much the same as the standard which > are > > active right now. There are quite a lot of captcha´s out there, just > > looking at mediawiki.com extensions gives a lot of choises. > > > > At this point in time we have several choices: > > 1) leave the config as it is > > 2) reinstall cats > > 3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one). > > > > I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will > > happely implement another community decision. > > > > I hope you can simply restore cats if that can be done without too > much trouble. Then we can discuss further and come to a community > decision on what else to do, if anything. I hope you agree that there > is zero benefit to accumulating additional spam while we discuss. >
Wiki have been upgraded, and respecting the jira I did not move the cat extension. > Fix the immediate problem, then we can discuss longer term. This one > area that Apache Infra knows how to do well. They know when it is > important to act rather than discuss. I suggest that this is one of > those times. > I happen to agree with you, and it has actually not been possible to create new accounts for a while now. The configuration is changed so that only sysops can create new accounts. Now to the other part....we have discussed these issues for quite a long time, so it was a fair assumption to accept the jira as the community wish. > > Thanks! > > -Rob > > > rgds > > jan I. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Regards, > >> Andrea. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
