Hi - The JIRA is quoted but links or the JIRA ID would be helpful along with a link to the ML thread where the decision was made.
It is hard to review this incident without these helpful pointers. Thanks, Dave On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:22 PM, jan i wrote: > On 7 February 2014 00:45, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: >>> On 6 February 2014 23:42, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> jan i wrote: >>>> >>>>> I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the >>>>> cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in >>>>> here) >>>>> you will see my warning. >>>>> >>>> >>>> The idea was to replace the CAPTCHA with something better, otherwise we >>>> can (should) keep the current CAPTCHA and discuss a better solution in >> the >>>> meantime. >>>> >>>> The cats cause incompatibilities and other issues, but if they are much >>>> more effective than the replacement let's go back to the cats as soon as >>>> possible and in the "see what's best to replace them (but something MORE >>>> effective, not LESS effective!). >>>> >>> >>> May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The >> jira >>> was implemented by the word ! >>> >>> The exact wording is: >>> >>> "Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It >>> doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead >> of >>> HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 -> >> Recommended >>> solution: drop it entirely. " >>> >>> That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something >>> more effective slips my mind. >>> >>> later the jira contains: >>> >>> "accessibility suggestion from Tyler (haven't tested MediaWiki >>> compatibility): there is a website which provides text-based CAPTCHA's in >>> the form of logic questions, math problems, etc. It provides an XML API. >>> See http://www.textcaptcha.com/ " >>> >>> Apart from the facts, thats its a suggestion and not a decision (like >> that >>> above), we do not use extensions that are not supported by mediawiki >>> (meaning downloadable from mediawiki.com and verified for our release). >> As >>> a sidenote, that captcha is pretty much the same as the standard which >> are >>> active right now. There are quite a lot of captcha´s out there, just >>> looking at mediawiki.com extensions gives a lot of choises. >>> >>> At this point in time we have several choices: >>> 1) leave the config as it is >>> 2) reinstall cats >>> 3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one). >>> >>> I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will >>> happely implement another community decision. >>> >> >> I hope you can simply restore cats if that can be done without too >> much trouble. Then we can discuss further and come to a community >> decision on what else to do, if anything. I hope you agree that there >> is zero benefit to accumulating additional spam while we discuss. >> > > Wiki have been upgraded, and respecting the jira I did not move the cat > extension. > > >> Fix the immediate problem, then we can discuss longer term. This one >> area that Apache Infra knows how to do well. They know when it is >> important to act rather than discuss. I suggest that this is one of >> those times. >> > > I happen to agree with you, and it has actually not been possible to create > new accounts for a while now. > > The configuration is changed so that only sysops can create new accounts. > > Now to the other part....we have discussed these issues for quite a long > time, so it was a fair assumption to accept the jira as the community wish. > > >> >> Thanks! >> >> -Rob >> >>> rgds >>> jan I. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andrea. >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> >>>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
