On 7 February 2014 08:48, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 07/02/2014 jan i wrote:
>
>> May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The jira
>> was implemented by the word !
>>
>
> Yes, probably, but it was badly written in my mail that was then copied to
> JIRA. You, and a few others, know that the contents of that JIRA issue
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7173
> result from an afternoon I spent during the holidays trying to put
> together all pending improvement suggestions that had come to us through
> many channels. I didn't take care to put many explanations there.
>
>
>  "Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It
>> doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead
>> of
>> HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 -> Recommended
>> solution: drop it entirely.  "
>>
>
> That specific suggestion was worded that way because I had read from
> someone (you, maybe?) that with the new improvements there could (just a
> possibility) be the possibility to do without the CAPTCHA. We tried, it
> didn't work and it's no problem to fix it immediately.
>
>
>  That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something
>> more effective slips my mind.
>>
>
> I wrote it in a wrong way giving somehow for granted that the MWiki
> upgrade would feature some native anti-spam measures and that those
> measures would suit our purpose. Again, we tried, they didn't, no problem
> to revert quickly.
>
>
>  At this point in time we have several choices:
>> 1) leave the config as it is
>> 2) reinstall cats
>> 3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one).
>> I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will
>> happely implement another community decision.
>>
>
> The current remedy you put in place (no self account creation) will
> obviously work for the time being, thanks for being fast in reacting.
>
> So let's move forward and see what we can implement now: where's the list
> of CAPTCHA solutions on mediawiki.com? Do you have any recommendations
> or, on the contrary, any extensions that Infra is not going to allow?
>

Anything found in
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix/AllExtensions where
"mediawiki version" allows 1.22 should do.

Especially for CAPTCHA there is one other limitation. The extension must be
self supported, NO calls to third party sites (since this is often used to
collect information).

rgds
jan I.

(By the way, the CAPTCHA issue exploded before I could review all items,
> but thank you for the work on all other pending issues! And let's get this
> one done properly too)
>
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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