Hi Thomas, 

Thomas Asta(?) wrote:
> 
> Eike Rathke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > The website mentions Win32 and Linux. What about other platforms like
> > Solaris or MacOSX?
> >
> MacOS needs to be ported, may come in the next time!

So what would you suggest for the meantime?

If you declare OOo with 7 modules (including IM) as the official one, Mac OS X 
and Solaris are no longer full OpenOffice.org suites. As you may see on first 
glance, 
this misregards the work done (and the people working) at these ports.
> [...]
> 
> Right, I do not want to integrate that messener in word or calc, but as an
(You talk of Writer, not of MS Word - do you?)
> own apllication into the Open Office suite,

OpenOffice.org doesn't consist of separate applications but of highly 
integrated modules. Every module can be reached with one mouse click 
from the other ones and you may easily embed one in another.

Up to now every module of OpenOffice.org is designed to create documents.
A messenger is a totally different kind of applications: It's used to 
communicate. 
So including a messenger would be a step towards an entirely new 
dimension of OpenOffice.org.
> 
> So the work to be done is just ready, to add a Openoffice logo to the
> application and make a tab in the website for it.  [...]

No, Thomas, the work to do is much more, if you want to include CSpace 
into the OpenOffice.org suite:

- OpenOffice.org profits of the possibility to reach every module directly 
from all the other ones. This kind of integration would be necessary
for all the existing components. Bundling another program with OOo
doesn't make it a part of the suite.

- Every new component of OpenOffice.org needs to be maintained. 
Therefore a new project (or subproject) will have to be established
inside the OpenOffice.org community.

- The new component will have to be ported to MacOSX, Solaris and 
other platforms. 

- As OpenOffice.org is translated in more than 60 languages all these 
translations would be necessary to the new component as well.

- Any new or modified code will have to be QA'd thoroughly, because we
want to keep the quality of every part of the suite as high as possible.

And please think of updating online help and documentation.

So integrating an Instant Messenger in OpenOffice.org is a task
concerning a lot of people - and the work can only be done by the 
community, if there are several people (developers, QA, i18n, porting,
and so on...) interested in spending quite a lot of time for this task.

All the people I know as active members of OpenOffice.org would like 
to do more than they have the time to.

If you don't find people to work on the integration of CSpace lurking around 
inside or (more likely) outside the community, it can't be integrated at all.

In my eyes there are just three options left:
- find developers (perhaps the ones from CSpace) and other people willing 
to work on the new component.
- wait for someone else asking the same question and start working together.
- propose a specification about direct calling an extern messenger, but this 
one would not be a part of the suite. (I'd prefer using the system default)

Best regards

Bernhard

PS: Your last mail shows, that you think of an extern program (with seperate 
download?) that should be called a part of the office suite. I hope, I'm right.

But being a part of OpenOffice.or is much more than creating a new icon, 
adding a link to the downloadpage and updating a few webpages. I hope you 
can understand one or another phrases I wrote above as my personal thoughts 
only.

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