+1 to Hoss’s idea of moving this to the sandbox.
Anshum Gupta On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 00:13 Jan Høydahl <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 to move to sandbox. Tiny feature should not hold us hostage > > Jan > > > 12. okt. 2026 kl. 23:12 skrev Chris Hostetter <[email protected] > >: > > > > > > The bugs found with solr/modules/cuvs in the Solr 10.1.0 RCs -- due to > the > > module depending on a thrid-party dependency that is tightly couple with > > the Lucene version, but released by a completely different organization > -- > > is really just a new variation on the fundemental the concerns I raise > > when cuvs was first added to Solr... > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-17892 > > > > I get that cuvs is a valuable feature to have, for some people, on some > > hardware, but I really don't think it makes sense for it to be part of > the > > official Solr release -- not when it's depenencies are so tightly > > intertwined (but loosly coupled) to the specific Lucene version at a > very > > low level. > > > > As Rahul indicates -- we are now facing the exact choice I warmed about > a > > year ago... > > > >>> In the future we (Solr) may get stuck between a rock and a hard place > >>> when attempting a Lucene upgrades ... we will be forced to choose: > >>> > >>> - Let the Lucene upgrade be blocked indefinitely until a > >>> third-party project ( cuvs-lucene ) gets around to a > >>> compatible release. > >>> - Stop supporting modules/cuvs in what may be a MINOR Solr > >>> release, potentially screwing our users who have built indexes > >>> using that module > > > > > > I really think we need to move cuvs to either the solr-sandbox, or some > > new purpose specific 'solr-cuvs' git repo, where it can be released on > > it's own timeframe, dependent on when/how/if the upstream third-party > > project (cuvs-lucene) has compatible releases for the Lucene version we > > are using. > > > > > > People who use Solr and do *not* use modules/cuvs should not have to > > suffer delays in getting iportant bug fixes in Solr code -- or getting a > > Solr release with a Lucene version that's already outdated -- just > because > > we don't want to release a Solr version with a "broken" modules/cuvs. > > > > > > -Hoss > > http://www.lucidworks.com/ > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 11 Oct 2026, Rahul Goswami wrote: > > > > : Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2026 17:08:02 -0400 > > : From: Rahul Goswami <[email protected]> > > : Reply-To: [email protected] > > : To: [email protected] > > : Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Solr 10.1.0 RC2 > > : > > : Tried the RC. The cuvs module seems to be broken. Indexing fails on a > GPU > > : enabled machine due to API incompatibility between cuvs-lucene and > Lucene > > : 10.4. > > : Currently no available compatible cuvs-lucene version exists for Lucene > > : 10.4 and is expected to be available by December this year. > > : > > : If there is agreement, I could spend the effort on rolling Solr back to > > : Lucene 10.3.2 where I have validated cuvs to work (which was also the > > : Lucene version we were on prior to 10.4). > > : > > : Thoughts? > > : > > : 2026-10-10 20:57:58.804 WARN (qtp166454155-71) [] > o.e.j.e.s.ServletChannel > > : /solr/vectors/update > > : *java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'int[] > > : > org.apache.lucene.util.hnsw.HnswGraph$NodesIterator.getSortedNodes(org.apache.lucene.util.hnsw.HnswGraph$NodesIterator)'* > > : at > > : > com.nvidia.cuvs.lucene.Lucene99AcceleratedHNSWVectorsWriter.writeGraph(Lucene99AcceleratedHNSWVectorsWriter.java:444) > > : at > > : > com.nvidia.cuvs.lucene.Lucene99AcceleratedHNSWVectorsWriter.writeFieldInternal(Lucene99AcceleratedHNSWVectorsWriter.java:230) > > : at > > : > com.nvidia.cuvs.lucene.Lucene99AcceleratedHNSWVectorsWriter.writeField(Lucene99AcceleratedHNSWVectorsWriter.java:502) > > : at > > : > com.nvidia.cuvs.lucene.Lucene99AcceleratedHNSWVectorsWriter.flush(Lucene99AcceleratedHNSWVectorsWriter.java:494) > > : at > > : > org.apache.lucene.codecs.perfield.PerFieldKnnVectorsFormat$FieldsWriter.flush(PerFieldKnnVectorsFormat.java:120) > > : at > > : > org.apache.lucene.index.VectorValuesConsumer.flush(VectorValuesConsumer.java:76) > > : at org.apache.lucene.index.IndexingChain.flush(IndexingChain.java:305) > > : at > > : > org.apache.lucene.index.DocumentsWriterPerThread.flush(DocumentsWriterPerThread.java:456) > > : at > org.apache.lucene.index.DocumentsWriter.doFlush(DocumentsWriter.java:502) > > : at > > : > org.apache.lucene.index.DocumentsWriter.maybeFlush(DocumentsWriter.java:456) > > : at > > : > org.apache.lucene.index.DocumentsWriter.flushAllThreads(DocumentsWriter.java:649) > > : at > > : > org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriter.prepareCommitInternal(IndexWriter.java:3712) > > : at > org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriter.commitInternal(IndexWriter.java:4160) > > : at org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriter.commit(IndexWriter.java:4122) > > : at > > : > org.apache.solr.update.DirectUpdateHandler2.commit(DirectUpdateHandler2.java:872) > > : at > > : > org.apache.solr.update.processor.RunUpdateProcessorFactory$RunUpdateProcessor.processCommit(RunUpdateProcessorFactory.java:100) > > : at > > : > org.apache.solr.update.processor.UpdateRequestProcessor.processCommit(UpdateRequestProcessor.java:66) > > : at > > : > org.apache.solr.update.processor.DistributedUpdateProcessor.doLocalCommit(DistributedUpdateProcessor > > : > > : - Rahul > > : > > : On Sat, Oct 10, 2026 at 5:57 PM Jan Høydahl <[email protected]> wrote: > > : > > : > The changelog lists "Dependency Upgrades (61 changes)" > > : > I thought we were to hand edit and de-duplicate that list. > > : > > > : > PS: Jetty 12.1.14 hits branch_10x soon, hope it can make it if > there's a > > : > respin. > > : > > > : > Jan > > : > > > : > > 10. okt. 2026 kl. 15:48 skrev Andrzej Białecki <[email protected]>: > > : > > > > : > > Please vote for release candidate 2 for Solr 10.1.0 > > : > > > > : > > The artifacts can be downloaded from: > > : > > > > : > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/solr/solr-10.1.0-RC2-rev-dfda5e1d4821958e60d13aa5ce3a0d4992319ed1 > > : > > > > : > > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command: > > : > > > > : > > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \ > > : > > > > : > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/solr/solr-10.1.0-RC2-rev-dfda5e1d4821958e60d13aa5ce3a0d4992319ed1 > > : > > > > : > > You can build a release-candidate of the official docker images > (full & > > : > slim) using the following command: > > : > > > > : > > SOLR_DOWNLOAD_SERVER= > > : > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/solr/solr-10.1.0-RC2-rev-dfda5e1d4821958e60d13aa5ce3a0d4992319ed1/solr > > : > && \ > > : > > docker build > > : > $SOLR_DOWNLOAD_SERVER/10.1.0/docker/Dockerfile.official-full \ > > : > > --build-arg SOLR_DOWNLOAD_SERVER=$SOLR_DOWNLOAD_SERVER \ > > : > > -t solr-rc:10.1.0-2 && \ > > : > > docker build > > : > $SOLR_DOWNLOAD_SERVER/10.1.0/docker/Dockerfile.official-slim \ > > : > > --build-arg SOLR_DOWNLOAD_SERVER=$SOLR_DOWNLOAD_SERVER \ > > : > > -t solr-rc:10.1.0-2-slim > > : > > > > : > > The vote will be open for 72 hours (not including the Sunday and > > : > Columbus Day), i.e. until 2026-10-15 15:00 UTC. > > : > > > > : > > [ ] +1 approve > > : > > [ ] +0 no opinion > > : > > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > > : > > > > : > > Here is my +1 > > : > > ---- > > : > > > > : > > Cheers, > > : > > Andrzej > > : > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > : > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > : > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > : > > > > : > > > : > > > : > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > : > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > : > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > : > > > : > > > : > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
