+1 for option B, and I like the idea of a 1.6.1 maintenance release with
OpenJPA final in it, that's a perfect one if option B can be provided super
fast (this week at least as a release candidate)

Otherwise it'll amount to option C for us :(

Thanks
Alex



On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Need to check whereas the option A is possible.
>
> I'm for B, but I would add the following: release 1.6.1 release maintenance
> as soon as OpenJPA gets released. Release maintenance only, no new
> features. Only big bugfixes and dep updates.
>
> Latest option is not acceptable for me
>
> To summarize:
> A = 0
> B = +1
> C = -1
>
>
> JLouis
>
>
> 2013/11/7 David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
>
> > So we need to start getting builds for Alex, Tim, Judah and crew or they
> > won't be able to move forward with TomEE.
> >
> > We just have the OpenJPA issue to deal with.  We have two options:
> >
> >  A. Release with OpenJPA 2.2.2
> >  B. Release with OpenJPA 2.3.0 "pre" build of our creation -- we've done
> > this with other things before on rare occasion
> >
> > Of course there is a 3rd option:
> >
> >  C. Forget those guys, they should give us more than 4 months lead time
> > that they'll need a release.
> >
> > I personally don't feel good about option #3.  Would hang those guys out
> > to dry and send a very bad message to other users.  We need to get that
> > frequent release thing down.
> >
> > So which option would have your vote?
> >
> >
> > -David
> >
> > On Nov 3, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> >
> > > openjpa-2.2.2 uses a hardcoded asm-3.2 dependency. That pretty much
> > sucks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
> > >> To: dev@tomee.apache.org
> > >> Sent: Monday, 4 November 2013, 3:25
> > >> Subject: Re: Time to release TomEE 1.6.0
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Branched in hopes we can kick out some of the snapshot dependencies we
> > have and get a release candidate up mid week -- or at least something
> > people can beat on.
> > >>
> > >> In terms of OpenJPA specifically, what is the exact issue with using
> > 2.2.2?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -David
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:00 PM, David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I pinged a few people on the OpenJPA release prior to JavaOne.  Mark
> > had volunteered some personal time for doing the OpenJPA release we need.
> >  Mark, that still something you're up for doing?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -David
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Cool, thanks!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Will send a mail to dev@openwebbeans.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> JLouis
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2013/9/5 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> FYI: TCK and build are back to green so only the dep issue now
> > (thanks
> > >>>>> David for TCK report)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > >>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > >>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > >>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > >>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > >>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2013/9/4 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I know that almost everybody is currently working in production
> with
> > >>>>>> SNAPSHOTS (kinda releases for OpenEJB).
> > >>>>>> But sometimes, it's also good to take time to product real
> releases.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> But, fully agree with you. Right now it a bit complicated
> regarding
> > the
> > >>>>>> community.
> > >>>>>> Hopefully, that should be better in coming weeks, months cause we
> > are
> > >>>>>> seeing more and more contributors on the mailing lists.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So they should join the committers' list of the project.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> JLouis
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2013/9/4 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hehe,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I hope so too but *today* it seems too complicated so i prefer to
> > be
> > >>>>>>> realistic.
> > >>>>>>> Le 4 sept. 2013 15:48, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" <jeano...@gmail.com
> >
> > a
> > >>>>>> écrit
> > >>>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Without moving from one side to the opposite, we can IMO do
> better
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>>>> more
> > >>>>>>>> frequent releases, at least with bugfixes.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> JLouis
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> arquillian update/fix is done for weeks, OpenJPA guys doesn't
> > move
> > >>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>> can fork even if that's a bit sad, OWB is not an issue IMO (we
> > just
> > >>>>>>> need
> > >>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> ask).
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> However our TCKs report is broken (report, not TCKs themself ;)
> > so
> > >>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>> need
> > >>>>>>>>> it to be fixed before any release.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> About maintenance releases: I think it is clear we are not able
> > to
> > >>>>> do
> > >>>>>>> so.
> > >>>>>>>>> So when somebody able to release is ready to do it, let's just
> > >>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>> IMO.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > >>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > >>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > >>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > >>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > >>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> @tiklu TomEE depends on other implementations to implement
> Java
> > >>>>> EE
> > >>>>>> 7.
> > >>>>>>>> The
> > >>>>>>>>>> work has already started with openwebbeans and bean
> validation.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Well regarding our 1.6.0 release, I would like to have it by
> the
> > >>>>>> end
> > >>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>> September.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Any updates on Arquillian, OpenWebBeans and OpenJPA?
> > >>>>>>>>>> Are they absolutely necessary?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> If API changes, ok if just a bugfix, mais be we can release
> > >>>>> another
> > >>>>>>>>>> maintenance release next month with new dependency updates.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> any comment?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> JLouis
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> 2013/7/18 tiklu ganguly <tiklugang...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and when are you guys planning support for JavaEE 7?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> PS we need arquillian 1.1.1.Final too to remove an ugly hack
> > >>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>> ATM,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> normally should be here at the end of the week
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/7/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We are still waiting for owb 1.2.1 and openjpa 2.3 :(
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 16 juil. 2013 15:26, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" <
> > >>>>>>>> jeano...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering if we could release TomEE 1.6.0.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any other releases we have to wait for?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody has important things in progress?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been a very long time since latest release and it's
> > >>>>>>>> necessary
> > >>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion to get it out soon now.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Jean-Louis
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Jean-Louis
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jean-Louis
>

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