So we need to start getting builds for Alex, Tim, Judah and crew or they won't 
be able to move forward with TomEE.

We just have the OpenJPA issue to deal with.  We have two options:

 A. Release with OpenJPA 2.2.2
 B. Release with OpenJPA 2.3.0 "pre" build of our creation -- we've done this 
with other things before on rare occasion

Of course there is a 3rd option:

 C. Forget those guys, they should give us more than 4 months lead time that 
they'll need a release.

I personally don't feel good about option #3.  Would hang those guys out to dry 
and send a very bad message to other users.  We need to get that frequent 
release thing down.

So which option would have your vote?


-David

On Nov 3, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote:

> openjpa-2.2.2 uses a hardcoded asm-3.2 dependency. That pretty much sucks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
>> To: dev@tomee.apache.org 
>> Sent: Monday, 4 November 2013, 3:25
>> Subject: Re: Time to release TomEE 1.6.0
>> 
>> 
>> Branched in hopes we can kick out some of the snapshot dependencies we have 
>> and get a release candidate up mid week -- or at least something people can 
>> beat on.
>> 
>> In terms of OpenJPA specifically, what is the exact issue with using 2.2.2?
>> 
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:00 PM, David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I pinged a few people on the OpenJPA release prior to JavaOne.  Mark had 
>>> volunteered some personal time for doing the OpenJPA release we need.  
>>> Mark, that still something you're up for doing?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -David
>>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Cool, thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Will send a mail to dev@openwebbeans.
>>>> 
>>>> JLouis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2013/9/5 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>>> FYI: TCK and build are back to green so only the dep issue now (thanks
>>>>> David for TCK report)
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2013/9/4 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that almost everybody is currently working in production with
>>>>>> SNAPSHOTS (kinda releases for OpenEJB).
>>>>>> But sometimes, it's also good to take time to product real releases.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But, fully agree with you. Right now it a bit complicated regarding the
>>>>>> community.
>>>>>> Hopefully, that should be better in coming weeks, months cause we are
>>>>>> seeing more and more contributors on the mailing lists.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So they should join the committers' list of the project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> JLouis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hehe,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I hope so too but *today* it seems too complicated so i prefer to be
>>>>>>> realistic.
>>>>>>> Le 4 sept. 2013 15:48, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" <jeano...@gmail.com> a
>>>>>> écrit
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Without moving from one side to the opposite, we can IMO do better
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> frequent releases, at least with bugfixes.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> JLouis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> arquillian update/fix is done for weeks, OpenJPA guys doesn't move
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> can fork even if that's a bit sad, OWB is not an issue IMO (we just
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> ask).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However our TCKs report is broken (report, not TCKs themself ;) so
>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> it to be fixed before any release.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> About maintenance releases: I think it is clear we are not able to
>>>>> do
>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>>> So when somebody able to release is ready to do it, let's just
>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>> IMO.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
>>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
>>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
>>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
>>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> @tiklu TomEE depends on other implementations to implement Java
>>>>> EE
>>>>>> 7.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> work has already started with openwebbeans and bean validation.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Well regarding our 1.6.0 release, I would like to have it by the
>>>>>> end
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> September.
>>>>>>>>>> Any updates on Arquillian, OpenWebBeans and OpenJPA?
>>>>>>>>>> Are they absolutely necessary?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If API changes, ok if just a bugfix, mais be we can release
>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>> maintenance release next month with new dependency updates.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> any comment?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> JLouis
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/7/18 tiklu ganguly <tiklugang...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> and when are you guys planning support for JavaEE 7?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>>>>>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> PS we need arquillian 1.1.1.Final too to remove an ugly hack
>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> ATM,
>>>>>>>>>>>> normally should be here at the end of the week
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/7/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are still waiting for owb 1.2.1 and openjpa 2.3 :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 16 juil. 2013 15:26, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" <
>>>>>>>> jeano...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering if we could release TomEE 1.6.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any other releases we have to wait for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody has important things in progress?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been a very long time since latest release and it's
>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion to get it out soon now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jean-Louis
>>> 
>> 
>> 

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