Mark: Thanks, we'll consider that. Alex
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: > The issue with openjpa-2.3.0 is a regression which only hits you seldom. > See OPENJPA-2335 > > I found it when I tried to use @OrderColumn. > It would be easy to fix this by rolling back Pinakis changes. But there > might have been a good reason for those changes. > > I'm on a conf today and have to deliver 2 more talks. After that I will be > able to work on that stuff again and hope I get this fixed till Sunday. > > I suggest Romain and I fix OpenJPA and we start a release of OWB and > OpenJPA immediately after that. > > So Alex, if you need a TomEE release, why don't you just set the version > to some internal number and rolle your private intermediate release > yourself? > This is really not more than mvn clean source:jar deploy -DskipTests=true > > We should have the TomEE release final somewhen this week. > > David now runs a company with commercial support even, so if you need help > with an internal release then I bet he can help you. > > This is OpenSource, but we are no free candy gift shop. > We all take a lot of heart but also time and money into TomEE and other > ASF projects. But not because we are bored! We really use that stuff in our > own projects. > > > > We are very happy to get feedback. We are also very happy if tomee users > are happy. We also understand that some users have time constraints. But we > would be even happier if people don't see all the work we do as granted for > free. > > > don't take it personal, just needed to be said ;) > > > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > >To: dev@tomee.apache.org > >Sent: Friday, 8 November 2013, 6:58 > >Subject: Re: Time to release TomEE 1.6.0 > > > > > >Ping Mark to know what is the openjpa regression. If blocking wait openjpa > >(or do the fix), if not B (or with the fix in our fork)... > > > >I just dont want a blind release > > > >Le 7 nov. 2013 22:38, "Alex The Rocker" <alex.m3...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > >> +1 for option B, and I like the idea of a 1.6.1 maintenance release with > >> OpenJPA final in it, that's a perfect one if option B can be provided > super > >> fast (this week at least as a release candidate) > >> > >> Otherwise it'll amount to option C for us :( > >> > >> Thanks > >> Alex > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO < > jeano...@gmail.com > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > Need to check whereas the option A is possible. > >> > > >> > I'm for B, but I would add the following: release 1.6.1 release > >> maintenance > >> > as soon as OpenJPA gets released. Release maintenance only, no new > >> > features. Only big bugfixes and dep updates. > >> > > >> > Latest option is not acceptable for me > >> > > >> > To summarize: > >> > A = 0 > >> > B = +1 > >> > C = -1 > >> > > >> > > >> > JLouis > >> > > >> > > >> > 2013/11/7 David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com> > >> > > >> > > So we need to start getting builds for Alex, Tim, Judah and crew or > >> they > >> > > won't be able to move forward with TomEE. > >> > > > >> > > We just have the OpenJPA issue to deal with. We have two options: > >> > > > >> > > A. Release with OpenJPA 2.2.2 > >> > > B. Release with OpenJPA 2.3.0 "pre" build of our creation -- we've > >> done > >> > > this with other things before on rare occasion > >> > > > >> > > Of course there is a 3rd option: > >> > > > >> > > C. Forget those guys, they should give us more than 4 months lead > time > >> > > that they'll need a release. > >> > > > >> > > I personally don't feel good about option #3. Would hang those guys > >> out > >> > > to dry and send a very bad message to other users. We need to get > that > >> > > frequent release thing down. > >> > > > >> > > So which option would have your vote? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -David > >> > > > >> > > On Nov 3, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > openjpa-2.2.2 uses a hardcoded asm-3.2 dependency. That pretty > much > >> > > sucks. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> ________________________________ > >> > > >> From: David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com> > >> > > >> To: dev@tomee.apache.org > >> > > >> Sent: Monday, 4 November 2013, 3:25 > >> > > >> Subject: Re: Time to release TomEE 1.6.0 > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Branched in hopes we can kick out some of the snapshot > dependencies > >> we > >> > > have and get a release candidate up mid week -- or at least > something > >> > > people can beat on. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> In terms of OpenJPA specifically, what is the exact issue with > using > >> > > 2.2.2? > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> -David > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:00 PM, David Blevins < > david.blev...@gmail.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> I pinged a few people on the OpenJPA release prior to JavaOne. > >> Mark > >> > > had volunteered some personal time for doing the OpenJPA release we > >> need. > >> > > Mark, that still something you're up for doing? > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> -David > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO < > >> jeano...@gmail.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>>> Cool, thanks! > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> Will send a mail to dev@openwebbeans. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> JLouis > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> 2013/9/5 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>>> FYI: TCK and build are back to green so only the dep issue now > >> > > (thanks > >> > > >>>>> David for TCK report) > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau* > >> > > >>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > >> > > >>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > >> > > >>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > >> > > >>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > >> > > >>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> 2013/9/4 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> I know that almost everybody is currently working in > production > >> > with > >> > > >>>>>> SNAPSHOTS (kinda releases for OpenEJB). > >> > > >>>>>> But sometimes, it's also good to take time to product real > >> > releases. > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> But, fully agree with you. Right now it a bit complicated > >> > regarding > >> > > the > >> > > >>>>>> community. > >> > > >>>>>> Hopefully, that should be better in coming weeks, months > cause > >> we > >> > > are > >> > > >>>>>> seeing more and more contributors on the mailing lists. > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> So they should join the committers' list of the project. > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> JLouis > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> 2013/9/4 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>> Hehe, > >> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>> I hope so too but *today* it seems too complicated so i > prefer > >> to > >> > > be > >> > > >>>>>>> realistic. > >> > > >>>>>>> Le 4 sept. 2013 15:48, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" < > >> jeano...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > > a > >> > > >>>>>> écrit > >> > > >>>>>>> : > >> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>> Without moving from one side to the opposite, we can IMO do > >> > better > >> > > >>>>> and > >> > > >>>>>>> more > >> > > >>>>>>>> frequent releases, at least with bugfixes. > >> > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>> JLouis > >> > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > >> > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> arquillian update/fix is done for weeks, OpenJPA guys > doesn't > >> > > move > >> > > >>>>>> but > >> > > >>>>>>> we > >> > > >>>>>>>>> can fork even if that's a bit sad, OWB is not an issue IMO > >> (we > >> > > just > >> > > >>>>>>> need > >> > > >>>>>>>> to > >> > > >>>>>>>>> ask). > >> > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> However our TCKs report is broken (report, not TCKs > themself > >> ;) > >> > > so > >> > > >>>>> we > >> > > >>>>>>>> need > >> > > >>>>>>>>> it to be fixed before any release. > >> > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> About maintenance releases: I think it is clear we are not > >> able > >> > > to > >> > > >>>>> do > >> > > >>>>>>> so. > >> > > >>>>>>>>> So when somebody able to release is ready to do it, let's > >> just > >> > > >>>>>> release > >> > > >>>>>>>> IMO. > >> > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau* > >> > > >>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > >> > > >>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > >> > > >>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > >> > > >>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > >> > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> @tiklu TomEE depends on other implementations to > implement > >> > Java > >> > > >>>>> EE > >> > > >>>>>> 7. > >> > > >>>>>>>> The > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> work has already started with openwebbeans and bean > >> > validation. > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Well regarding our 1.6.0 release, I would like to have > it by > >> > the > >> > > >>>>>> end > >> > > >>>>>>> of > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> September. > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Any updates on Arquillian, OpenWebBeans and OpenJPA? > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Are they absolutely necessary? > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> If API changes, ok if just a bugfix, mais be we can > release > >> > > >>>>> another > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> maintenance release next month with new dependency > updates. > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> any comment? > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> JLouis > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> 2013/7/18 tiklu ganguly <tiklugang...@gmail.com> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and when are you guys planning support for JavaEE 7? > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> PS we need arquillian 1.1.1.Final too to remove an ugly > >> hack > >> > > >>>>> we > >> > > >>>>>>>> have > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> ATM, > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> normally should be here at the end of the week > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau* > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau < > https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/7/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We are still waiting for owb 1.2.1 and openjpa 2.3 :( > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 16 juil. 2013 15:26, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" < > >> > > >>>>>>>> jeano...@gmail.com> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> a > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering if we could release TomEE 1.6.0. > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any other releases we have to wait for? > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody has important things in progress? > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been a very long time since latest release and > it's > >> > > >>>>>>>> necessary > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> in > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> my > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion to get it out soon now. > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts? > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>> -- > >> > > >>>>>>>> Jean-Louis > >> > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> -- > >> > > >>>>>> Jean-Louis > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> -- > >> > > >>>> Jean-Louis > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Jean-Louis > >> > > >> > > > > >