Mark:
Thanks, we'll consider that.
Alex

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote:

> The issue with openjpa-2.3.0 is a regression which only hits you seldom.
> See OPENJPA-2335
>
> I found it when I tried to use @OrderColumn.
> It would be easy to fix this by rolling back Pinakis changes. But there
> might have been a good reason for those changes.
>
> I'm on a conf today and have to deliver 2 more talks. After that I will be
> able to work on that stuff again and hope I get this fixed till Sunday.
>
> I suggest Romain and I fix OpenJPA and we start a release of OWB and
> OpenJPA immediately after that.
>
> So Alex, if you need a TomEE release, why don't you just set the version
> to some internal number and rolle your private intermediate release
> yourself?
> This is really not more than mvn clean source:jar deploy -DskipTests=true
>
> We should have the TomEE release final somewhen this week.
>
> David now runs a company with commercial support even, so if you need help
> with an internal release then I bet he can help you.
>
> This is OpenSource, but we are no free candy gift shop.
> We all take a lot of heart but also time and money into TomEE and other
> ASF projects. But not because we are bored! We really use that stuff in our
> own projects.
>
>
>
> We are very happy to get feedback. We are also very happy if tomee users
> are happy. We also understand that some users have time constraints. But we
> would be even happier if people don't see all the work we do as granted for
> free.
>
>
> don't take it personal, just needed to be said ;)
>
>
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >To: dev@tomee.apache.org
> >Sent: Friday, 8 November 2013, 6:58
> >Subject: Re: Time to release TomEE 1.6.0
> >
> >
> >Ping Mark to know what is the openjpa regression. If blocking wait openjpa
> >(or do the fix), if not B (or with the fix in our fork)...
> >
> >I just dont want a blind release
> >
> >Le 7 nov. 2013 22:38, "Alex The Rocker" <alex.m3...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> >> +1 for option B, and I like the idea of a 1.6.1 maintenance release with
> >> OpenJPA final in it, that's a perfect one if option B can be provided
> super
> >> fast (this week at least as a release candidate)
> >>
> >> Otherwise it'll amount to option C for us :(
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> jeano...@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Need to check whereas the option A is possible.
> >> >
> >> > I'm for B, but I would add the following: release 1.6.1 release
> >> maintenance
> >> > as soon as OpenJPA gets released. Release maintenance only, no new
> >> > features. Only big bugfixes and dep updates.
> >> >
> >> > Latest option is not acceptable for me
> >> >
> >> > To summarize:
> >> > A = 0
> >> > B = +1
> >> > C = -1
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > JLouis
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2013/11/7 David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> > > So we need to start getting builds for Alex, Tim, Judah and crew or
> >> they
> >> > > won't be able to move forward with TomEE.
> >> > >
> >> > > We just have the OpenJPA issue to deal with.  We have two options:
> >> > >
> >> > >  A. Release with OpenJPA 2.2.2
> >> > >  B. Release with OpenJPA 2.3.0 "pre" build of our creation -- we've
> >> done
> >> > > this with other things before on rare occasion
> >> > >
> >> > > Of course there is a 3rd option:
> >> > >
> >> > >  C. Forget those guys, they should give us more than 4 months lead
> time
> >> > > that they'll need a release.
> >> > >
> >> > > I personally don't feel good about option #3.  Would hang those guys
> >> out
> >> > > to dry and send a very bad message to other users.  We need to get
> that
> >> > > frequent release thing down.
> >> > >
> >> > > So which option would have your vote?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -David
> >> > >
> >> > > On Nov 3, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > openjpa-2.2.2 uses a hardcoded asm-3.2 dependency. That pretty
> much
> >> > > sucks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> ________________________________
> >> > > >> From: David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> To: dev@tomee.apache.org
> >> > > >> Sent: Monday, 4 November 2013, 3:25
> >> > > >> Subject: Re: Time to release TomEE 1.6.0
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Branched in hopes we can kick out some of the snapshot
> dependencies
> >> we
> >> > > have and get a release candidate up mid week -- or at least
> something
> >> > > people can beat on.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> In terms of OpenJPA specifically, what is the exact issue with
> using
> >> > > 2.2.2?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> -David
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:00 PM, David Blevins <
> david.blev...@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> I pinged a few people on the OpenJPA release prior to JavaOne.
> >>  Mark
> >> > > had volunteered some personal time for doing the OpenJPA release we
> >> need.
> >> > >  Mark, that still something you're up for doing?
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> -David
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> >> jeano...@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>> Cool, thanks!
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Will send a mail to dev@openwebbeans.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> JLouis
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> 2013/9/5 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>> FYI: TCK and build are back to green so only the dep issue now
> >> > > (thanks
> >> > > >>>>> David for TCK report)
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> >> > > >>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> >> > > >>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> >> > > >>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> >> > > >>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> >> > > >>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> 2013/9/4 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> I know that almost everybody is currently working in
> production
> >> > with
> >> > > >>>>>> SNAPSHOTS (kinda releases for OpenEJB).
> >> > > >>>>>> But sometimes, it's also good to take time to product real
> >> > releases.
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> But, fully agree with you. Right now it a bit complicated
> >> > regarding
> >> > > the
> >> > > >>>>>> community.
> >> > > >>>>>> Hopefully, that should be better in coming weeks, months
> cause
> >> we
> >> > > are
> >> > > >>>>>> seeing more and more contributors on the mailing lists.
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> So they should join the committers' list of the project.
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> JLouis
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> 2013/9/4 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>> Hehe,
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>> I hope so too but *today* it seems too complicated so i
> prefer
> >> to
> >> > > be
> >> > > >>>>>>> realistic.
> >> > > >>>>>>> Le 4 sept. 2013 15:48, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" <
> >> jeano...@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > > a
> >> > > >>>>>> écrit
> >> > > >>>>>>> :
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> Without moving from one side to the opposite, we can IMO do
> >> > better
> >> > > >>>>> and
> >> > > >>>>>>> more
> >> > > >>>>>>>> frequent releases, at least with bugfixes.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> JLouis
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> arquillian update/fix is done for weeks, OpenJPA guys
> doesn't
> >> > > move
> >> > > >>>>>> but
> >> > > >>>>>>> we
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> can fork even if that's a bit sad, OWB is not an issue IMO
> >> (we
> >> > > just
> >> > > >>>>>>> need
> >> > > >>>>>>>> to
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> ask).
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> However our TCKs report is broken (report, not TCKs
> themself
> >> ;)
> >> > > so
> >> > > >>>>> we
> >> > > >>>>>>>> need
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> it to be fixed before any release.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> About maintenance releases: I think it is clear we are not
> >> able
> >> > > to
> >> > > >>>>> do
> >> > > >>>>>>> so.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> So when somebody able to release is ready to do it, let's
> >> just
> >> > > >>>>>> release
> >> > > >>>>>>>> IMO.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> @tiklu TomEE depends on other implementations to
> implement
> >> > Java
> >> > > >>>>> EE
> >> > > >>>>>> 7.
> >> > > >>>>>>>> The
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> work has already started with openwebbeans and bean
> >> > validation.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Well regarding our 1.6.0 release, I would like to have
> it by
> >> > the
> >> > > >>>>>> end
> >> > > >>>>>>> of
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> September.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Any updates on Arquillian, OpenWebBeans and OpenJPA?
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Are they absolutely necessary?
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> If API changes, ok if just a bugfix, mais be we can
> release
> >> > > >>>>> another
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> maintenance release next month with new dependency
> updates.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> any comment?
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> JLouis
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> 2013/7/18 tiklu ganguly <tiklugang...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and when are you guys planning support for JavaEE 7?
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> PS we need arquillian 1.1.1.Final too to remove an ugly
> >> hack
> >> > > >>>>> we
> >> > > >>>>>>>> have
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> ATM,
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> normally should be here at the end of the week
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <
> https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/7/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We are still waiting for owb 1.2.1 and openjpa 2.3 :(
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 16 juil. 2013 15:26, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" <
> >> > > >>>>>>>> jeano...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering if we could release TomEE 1.6.0.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any other releases we have to wait for?
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody has important things in progress?
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been a very long time since latest release and
> it's
> >> > > >>>>>>>> necessary
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> my
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion to get it out soon now.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> --
> >> > > >>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> --
> >> > > >>>>>> Jean-Louis
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> --
> >> > > >>>> Jean-Louis
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Jean-Louis
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

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