Note, wait-and-talk-to-mark is essentially option C as Mark isn't back from JAX till next week.
So far option B seems the dominant choice. I'll get started with that and try and get some binaries up for tire-kicking then go to bed. -David On Nov 7, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ping Mark to know what is the openjpa regression. If blocking wait openjpa > (or do the fix), if not B (or with the fix in our fork)... > > I just dont want a blind release > Le 7 nov. 2013 22:38, "Alex The Rocker" <alex.m3...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >> +1 for option B, and I like the idea of a 1.6.1 maintenance release with >> OpenJPA final in it, that's a perfect one if option B can be provided super >> fast (this week at least as a release candidate) >> >> Otherwise it'll amount to option C for us :( >> >> Thanks >> Alex >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >> >>> Need to check whereas the option A is possible. >>> >>> I'm for B, but I would add the following: release 1.6.1 release >> maintenance >>> as soon as OpenJPA gets released. Release maintenance only, no new >>> features. Only big bugfixes and dep updates. >>> >>> Latest option is not acceptable for me >>> >>> To summarize: >>> A = 0 >>> B = +1 >>> C = -1 >>> >>> >>> JLouis >>> >>> >>> 2013/11/7 David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> So we need to start getting builds for Alex, Tim, Judah and crew or >> they >>>> won't be able to move forward with TomEE. >>>> >>>> We just have the OpenJPA issue to deal with. We have two options: >>>> >>>> A. Release with OpenJPA 2.2.2 >>>> B. Release with OpenJPA 2.3.0 "pre" build of our creation -- we've >> done >>>> this with other things before on rare occasion >>>> >>>> Of course there is a 3rd option: >>>> >>>> C. Forget those guys, they should give us more than 4 months lead time >>>> that they'll need a release. >>>> >>>> I personally don't feel good about option #3. Would hang those guys >> out >>>> to dry and send a very bad message to other users. We need to get that >>>> frequent release thing down. >>>> >>>> So which option would have your vote? >>>> >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> On Nov 3, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> openjpa-2.2.2 uses a hardcoded asm-3.2 dependency. That pretty much >>>> sucks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: dev@tomee.apache.org >>>>>> Sent: Monday, 4 November 2013, 3:25 >>>>>> Subject: Re: Time to release TomEE 1.6.0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Branched in hopes we can kick out some of the snapshot dependencies >> we >>>> have and get a release candidate up mid week -- or at least something >>>> people can beat on. >>>>>> >>>>>> In terms of OpenJPA specifically, what is the exact issue with using >>>> 2.2.2? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:00 PM, David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I pinged a few people on the OpenJPA release prior to JavaOne. >> Mark >>>> had volunteered some personal time for doing the OpenJPA release we >> need. >>>> Mark, that still something you're up for doing? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO < >> jeano...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cool, thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will send a mail to dev@openwebbeans. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> JLouis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2013/9/5 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FYI: TCK and build are back to green so only the dep issue now >>>> (thanks >>>>>>>>> David for TCK report) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau* >>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* >>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< >>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* >>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know that almost everybody is currently working in production >>> with >>>>>>>>>> SNAPSHOTS (kinda releases for OpenEJB). >>>>>>>>>> But sometimes, it's also good to take time to product real >>> releases. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But, fully agree with you. Right now it a bit complicated >>> regarding >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> community. >>>>>>>>>> Hopefully, that should be better in coming weeks, months cause >> we >>>> are >>>>>>>>>> seeing more and more contributors on the mailing lists. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So they should join the committers' list of the project. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> JLouis >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hehe, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope so too but *today* it seems too complicated so i prefer >> to >>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> realistic. >>>>>>>>>>> Le 4 sept. 2013 15:48, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" < >> jeano...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>>>> écrit >>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Without moving from one side to the opposite, we can IMO do >>> better >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>> frequent releases, at least with bugfixes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> JLouis >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> arquillian update/fix is done for weeks, OpenJPA guys doesn't >>>> move >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>> can fork even if that's a bit sad, OWB is not an issue IMO >> (we >>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> However our TCKs report is broken (report, not TCKs themself >> ;) >>>> so >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be fixed before any release. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> About maintenance releases: I think it is clear we are not >> able >>>> to >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>> so. >>>>>>>>>>>>> So when somebody able to release is ready to do it, let's >> just >>>>>>>>>> release >>>>>>>>>>>> IMO. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau* >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/9/4 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @tiklu TomEE depends on other implementations to implement >>> Java >>>>>>>>> EE >>>>>>>>>> 7. >>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work has already started with openwebbeans and bean >>> validation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well regarding our 1.6.0 release, I would like to have it by >>> the >>>>>>>>>> end >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> September. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any updates on Arquillian, OpenWebBeans and OpenJPA? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they absolutely necessary? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If API changes, ok if just a bugfix, mais be we can release >>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance release next month with new dependency updates. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any comment? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JLouis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/7/18 tiklu ganguly <tiklugang...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and when are you guys planning support for JavaEE 7? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS we need arquillian 1.1.1.Final too to remove an ugly >> hack >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ATM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally should be here at the end of the week >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/7/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are still waiting for owb 1.2.1 and openjpa 2.3 :( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 16 juil. 2013 15:26, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" < >>>>>>>>>>>> jeano...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering if we could release TomEE 1.6.0. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any other releases we have to wait for? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody has important things in progress? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been a very long time since latest release and it's >>>>>>>>>>>> necessary >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion to get it out soon now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Jean-Louis >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jean-Louis >>> >>
