Hi,
I was trying to write an e-mail where I was comparing our website to
that of others... and then I got it :D (imho): We should simply rename
Projects to Developers and change maybe a bit of the wording. What do
you want to do. Why? Well, you want people there where they feel they
can contribute the most to something they want to do themselves. So
where to start... well euh... contributing? Too broad... and there the
project page comes in to place.
Projects as a main menu item is not common at websites I've been looking
at (see below), and the developer-pages are often trying to explain in
what directions one can contribute... quite an overlap with our projects
page right?
g.,
Maarten
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As input to the discussion about which tabs...
About the tabs, compared to some other sites:
__COMPARED WITH OTHER WEBSITED____
Mozilla.org
Home --> uses logo
Download --> 'products'/mozilla.com
Support --> support
Contributing --> developers
Projects --> 'products'
My Pages --> n/a
About --> [about] -> the non-dev contribution is also part of about
Mozilla.org features the extra 'Store' option
msoffice.com
Home --> home
Download --> 'products'/downloads
Support --> Help and how-to
Contributing --> n/a
Projects --> 'products'
My Pages --> Sign in (not a tab)
About --> n/a
Other tabs: Clipart, Templates (yes special tabs for these!), and
Microsoft Office Live
koffice.org
(doesn't really have tabs, but links sorted, ... kind of tabs)
Home --> KOffice Homepage
Downloads --> Latest releases, Download
Support --> Documentation
Contributing --> Development
Projects --> 'KOffice Application'
My Pages --> n/a
About --> Inform
Other 'tabs': Competitions
gnomeoffice.org
(doesn't really have tabs, but links sorted, ... kind of tabs)
(also not really a suite, but separate programs)
Home --> Gnome Office Home
Downloads --> "Download now!" (referring back to the homepage
Support --> Mailinglists / Documentation
Contributing --> Helping out, Developers
(not aimed at other type of feedback)
Projects -->Featuring
My Pages --> n/a
About --> n/a
__DISCUSSION____
OSS projects all have Developers or Development as a tab available. This
tab is often featuring either a link to less technical ways of
contributing. Only gnomeoffice.org has a relatively comparable to the
Contributing tab named 'Helping out'.
Not all pages feature a home tab, the logo can be used for this as well...
Downloads is also called products sometimes (but not 100% comparable)
Support is named differently across all (only Mozilla also shares support...
Projects is called products sometimes, but nothing really similar is
actually available from other websites this quick
Our mypages tab is relatively unique. MS Office allows you to sign in,
but do not use their tabs for this (for other websites some do this,
e.g. amazon doesn't feature it my account page as a tab, while ebay does)
About is on most pages, and is not really defined...
__CONCLUSION____
Well... my opinion that 'll be :) ... I always assume that keeping the
tabs to a limited number is better.
Move My pages out of the tabs, and add sign in to where search is
located as well
Make a direct link from the current projects page into the new
development tab
Clearly distinguish between people using OOo as a platform and OOo as
something to work on.
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
Hi,
On 2007-03-17, at 18:27 , Stefan Taxhet wrote:
Hi,
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
I'd like to see if people are interested in adding a new tab to the
homepage:
>Developers<
We are talking about a new tab for the full site not only the
homepage, right?
If it works for the whole site, yes.
Yes, we discussed this earlier, but let's give it a try...
Indeed (that we discussed it earlier)
it could point directly to the main developer wiki page plus also
have links for *bug reporting and bug reports.*
A tab can point only to one page. We have to decide whether we would
like to link to the wiki or to a page on the main site first.
Yes. If it points to current Development page, then let's clean it up
a lot and keep the wiki as the main content page. Development would
mainly point to the wiki; the only reason to use Development (which I
think should generally be deprecated) is b/c I don't know the status
of the wiki server. Conceivably, we could point it to an OSU server,
like the Extensions link.
I'd prefer the latter, but we need to work on the landing page either
way. Neither development.ooo nor the wiki homepage are a good target
at the moment.
Right.
The pro argument includes:
* makes it easier for developers. Right now the "contributing" tab
is ambiguous, as it must be--it's comprehensive. Further, Mozilla
has "developers" and in the interest of a common language, it would
help.
The con argument includes:
* makes it confusing, as "contributing" already exists, even though
we'd remove "programming" if we have 'developers'.
The basic assumption is that all or virtually all users hitting the
homepage are endusers and not developers.
This is a self-fulfilling prophecy if there is no interesting content
/ link for developers on the homepage.
Btw, any thoughts about my proposal to add a blue "developers" button
below "new users"?
It's fine with me. In fact, I'm strongly for it, though it would
arguably duplicate information linkage on the homepage.
Greetings
Stefan
best
louis
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