On Mon, Dec 08, 2025 at 03:46:22AM -0000, b b wrote:
> Xorg has been working for over 40 year, Wayland has been mulfunctioning for 
> 20 years, if there is something old that needs to be replaced that's Wayland.

"Xorg" has only been around for about 20, but the very fact that it was 
created (ie a hostile fork from XFree86, one of numerous competing X 
server implementations of various quality/completeness) shows that 
things were not, in fact, "working".  Even putting that aside, for about 
30 of those 40 years, "working" required a considerable amount of 
per-installation elbow grease and goats blood.

Nevermind that a significant contributor of the relative stability of 
the last decade of Xorg's existance being relatively solid is thanks to 
a great deal of (pre-Xorg and post-Xorg) investment by Red Hat.

> And yes, people will fork and are forking (h/t Kevin), the only thing 
> RedHat managed to kill until now is their own reputation.

The beauty of F/OSS is it can't be "killed".

...but it can die because nobody gives enough of a damn to work on it 
[for free] any more.  Which is where we are today.

 - Solomon
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