Hello! I'm fine with Wayland as *alternative* environment. I'm NOT fine with Wayland as *only* environment, because it has too many regressions when compared to X11:
* no Autotype - affects KeePassXC that hides it under Wayland to avoid bug reports, see https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc/issues/12792 (I use autotype on pesky VM guests that prohibits clipboard - for example Windows Login in VM with Spice console) * KiCad issues caused by Wayland: https://www.kicad.org/blog/2025/06/KiCad-and-Wayland-Support/ * Wayland makes xdotool unusable: https://www.semicomplete.com/blog/xdotool-and-exploring-wayland-fragmentation/ * spice-gtk unable to properly release mouse grab: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/spice/spice-gtk/-/issues/185 - that highly annoying bug is now 1.5 year old (!) * Xfce/Wayland is catastrophe (rendering artifacts even on main menu, unable to right-click on context menu, because it is displaced and clicks somewhere else - tested on LEAP 16). * lagging mouse move under some conditions - never experienced that under X11 * misplaced mouse clicks under some conditions (typically Sway in VM with VirGL) - again never experienced that under X11 * misplaced application windows or pull-down menu under some conditions (experienced on Ubuntu guest with Microchip MPLAB X IDE) * ideology over technology approach - many important features postponed for years for political reasons (not technical) Once Wayland will have parity with X11 I will be happily using it. Now it looks like Microsoft way - dropping X11 instead of fixing Wayland bugs so users will have no choice and have use unfinished product that already harms Linux desktop reputation. Regards --Henryk Paluch ----- Original Message ----- > From: "b b" <[email protected]> > To: "devel" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 8, 2025 4:46:22 AM > Subject: Re: KDE bait&switch on X11 support, -x11 packages will be switching > to forks by Fedora 46 at the latest > RedHat is actively trying to kill Xorg forever, they deleted numerous commits > to > it, ostracized the main developer and partecipated to the smear campaign > against XLibre. > > Xorg has been working for over 40 year, Wayland has been mulfunctioning for 20 > years, if there is something old that needs to be replaced that's Wayland. > > And yes, people will fork and are forking (h/t Kevin), the only thing RedHat > managed to kill until now is their own reputation. > -- > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
