On Sat, Feb 21, 2026, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2026 at 04:56:21PM +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 10:19:02PM +0100, Michael J Gruber wrote: > > > Bug or feature, it seems to be intentional as per the discussion in > > > the texlive change. > > > > It took me a while to find any discussion of this, but I guess you > > mean this link? > > > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f44-change-proposal-texlive2025-self-contained/165120/23 > > > > Not much discussion seems to have happened before the change. Some > > happened afterwards (about how it broke stuff). Also, it happened on > > an opaque website that I don't visit regularly, because that site > > still cannot send useful emails. > > Sidetrack to the thread, but how are you finding the emails from > discussion non useful? Email is the primary way I interact with it, and > while it does have some quirks overall it seems usable to me.
I find them non-useful in multiple ways: 1. Odd-threading. It is very hard for me to figure out who is replying to whom in various threads with the included email that it says "last message" can be N discussions that migth be related to what the person gets 2. I constantly find that I have to log in if I am going to reply to a list. I have tried setting it up with email from client and when it works what people get seems not what I expected to send. 3. I get way too may emails if I don't filter down to what I want to know. I was getting every ASK and other updates for a while when I thought I had set it up just to get EPEL related items. It took several 'punches' to get the filtering system to stop sending too much stuff. 4. I probably set filtering too tight as I don't seem to get every email from some discussions. I will find that the first email I get is the 3rd or 4th email in a thread versus the one that opened it. 5. I have a hard time dealing with what my brain says in visual noise in the UI and frankly get headaches from dealing with it too long. This is a neuro-issue on my part in the same way that command line terminal items give other people headaches or unable to concentrate. These problems come and go with the updates to the backend software, but I really don't feel like spending a lot of time 'learning' how to optimize the new interface due to 5. Most of my ability to focus on this is due to familiarity and being able to take the time years ago to learn that area. I just don't have that time these days. This isn't a 'the software is evil and must be ditched' statement. A community distribution must make choices to how it wants to continue existing as people have different amounts of time and energy to contribute. > kevin > -- > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/tickets/issues/new > -- Stephen J Smoogen. Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren
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