On Sun, Feb 22, 2026 at 09:56:31AM -0500, Stephen J Smoogen wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2026, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2026 at 04:56:21PM +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 10:19:02PM +0100, Michael J Gruber wrote: > > > > Bug or feature, it seems to be intentional as per the discussion in > > > > the texlive change. > > > > > > It took me a while to find any discussion of this, but I guess you > > > mean this link? > > > > > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f44-change-proposal-texlive2025-self-contained/165120/23 > > > > > > Not much discussion seems to have happened before the change. Some > > > happened afterwards (about how it broke stuff). Also, it happened on > > > an opaque website that I don't visit regularly, because that site > > > still cannot send useful emails. > > > > Sidetrack to the thread, but how are you finding the emails from > > discussion non useful? Email is the primary way I interact with it, and > > while it does have some quirks overall it seems usable to me. > > I find them non-useful in multiple ways: > 1. Odd-threading. It is very hard for me to figure out who is replying to > whom in various threads with the included email that it says "last message" > can be N discussions that migth be related to what the person gets
Strange, The only times I see threading problems are when moderators move a discussion to a new thread/etc, but its usually pretty easy to see where it came from... > 2. I constantly find that I have to log in if I am going to reply to a list. > I have tried setting it up with email from client and when it works what > people get seems not what I expected to send. Also strange, as I reply to the emails almost all the time and it handles it surprisingly well. It's all pretty simple, the email has a reply-to that sends to a discourse input so it knows what thread it's a part of, etc. I've even replied to multiple emails, signed posts and other things and had it work. > 3. I get way too may emails if I don't filter down to what I want to know. I > was getting every ASK and other updates for a while when I thought I had set > it up just to get EPEL related items. It took several 'punches' to get the > filtering system to stop sending too much stuff. Yeah, most people dont want everything, just specific tags. You can subscribe to only the tags you want. > 4. I probably set filtering too tight as I don't seem to get every email > from some discussions. I will find that the first email I get is the 3rd or > 4th email in a thread versus the one that opened it. Thats also surprising, as I find it to do references headers quite well. It might be you are sorting only by date, not by thread? > 5. I have a hard time dealing with what my brain says in visual noise in the > UI and frankly get headaches from dealing with it too long. This is a > neuro-issue on my part in the same way that command line terminal items give > other people headaches or unable to concentrate. Well, I was specifically asking about the email interface... not the web interface. > These problems come and go with the updates to the backend software, but I > really don't feel like spending a lot of time 'learning' how to optimize the > new interface due to 5. Most of my ability to focus on this is due to > familiarity and being able to take the time years ago to learn that area. I > just don't have that time these days. > > This isn't a 'the software is evil and must be ditched' statement. A > community distribution must make choices to how it wants to continue existing > as people have different amounts of time and energy to contribute. Sure, I was just wanting to offer my help for those hitting problems or thinking that the email interface wasn't workable... kevin -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam, report it: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/tickets/issues/new
