On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 02:31:49PM +0200, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Justin Forbes venit, vidit, dixit 2026-09-08 07:09:55: > > I do send as fedoraproject.org, and have for a while now when dealing > > with upstream kernel. I like the visibility for Fedora, but if it goes > > away I will get by. I do think the visibility of Fedora in upstream > > projects is both valid and important, but there are other ways to > > achieve this as well. > > > > They are twindling, and GMail's change is a minor part. The major part > is that fp.o addresses are becoming unreliable in the sense that more > and more services will filter them out or increase their spam > probability due to the lax SPF policies which are necessary if we have > to send from "somewhere else". OK, spam is where lots of RH mail lands, > too, for whatever reason, but ...
This is potentially a bigger problem than just the vanity aliases, because the fedoraproject.org domain is also used as the sender domain for automated / machine emails our infrastructure/tools send. At least we separated mailing lists off into its own sub-domain, but having both those remaining use cases under the same domain feels less than ideal. Hopefully we don't ever get any clashes from a new contributor account name and a valid machine sender address, as I'm guessing nothing enforces any separation ? > So, sedning via third-party smtp is a dead end either way. That leaves > the options: > > A) Give up on fp.o aliases > B) Declare fp.o aliases to be forwarding only (and adjust DNS records) > C) Set up an authenticated fp.o SMTP If we want a mail service for contributors, should we consider use of the separate "fedorapeople.org" domain for this, reserving the "fedoraproject.org" domain for trusted project services to use for outbound mail ? This would reduce the risk that contributor mails getting classed as spam, would impact the reputation for the domain used for project services which send mail. > D) Set up (or get a provider for) a full e-mail service for fp.o > > I don't expect D, and A would be a shame for the project, really. But we > have to face the fact that the current way of doing things becomes less > and less reliable. With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com ~~ https://hachyderm.io/@berrange :| |: https://libvirt.org ~~ https://entangle-photo.org :| |: https://pixelfed.art/berrange ~~ https://fstop138.berrange.com :| -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam, report it: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/tickets/issues/new
