On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 02:31:49PM +0200, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Justin Forbes venit, vidit, dixit 2026-09-08 07:09:55: > > I do send as fedoraproject.org, and have for a while now when dealing > > with upstream kernel. I like the visibility for Fedora, but if it goes > > away I will get by. I do think the visibility of Fedora in upstream > > projects is both valid and important, but there are other ways to > > achieve this as well. > > > They are twindling, and GMail's change is a minor part. The major part
Huh... learned a new word today. ;) Who is 'They' in your sentence? > is that fp.o addresses are becoming unreliable in the sense that more > and more services will filter them out or increase their spam > probability due to the lax SPF policies which are necessary if we have Is there any evidence of this happening? I suppose google keeps telling everyone that they have to have DKIM, but they have said that for a long while and yet emails go through? We do have SPF and DMARC (all be it in a permissive way). > to send from "somewhere else". OK, spam is where lots of RH mail lands, > too, for whatever reason, but ... > > So, sedning via third-party smtp is a dead end either way. That leaves I haven't been convinced yet that that is the case. > the options: > > A) Give up on fp.o aliases > B) Declare fp.o aliases to be forwarding only (and adjust DNS records) > C) Set up an authenticated fp.o SMTP > D) Set up (or get a provider for) a full e-mail service for fp.o > > I don't expect D, and A would be a shame for the project, really. But we > have to face the fact that the current way of doing things becomes less > and less reliable. email in general is less and less reliable. The large providers also often reject or delay emails for whatever reasons they want to. For example, I couldn't send to hotmail from my home mail server (I should check if I can now). Nothing I could do fixed it... they just refused my email. yahoo often blocked the entire fedoraproject.org domain when 1 person marked a legit email they signed up for as a spam. Adding locked down DMARC/SPF/DKIM is not any kind of surity that the email will be accepted. kevin -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam, report it: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/tickets/issues/new
