On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 10:36 AM Michael J Gruber <[email protected]> 
wrote:
>
> Gary Buhrmaster venit, vidit, dixit 2026-09-08 22:33:49:
> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2026 at 3:37 PM Kevin Fenzi <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Adding locked down DMARC/SPF/DKIM is not any kind of surity that the
> > > email will be accepted.
> >
> > Correct (their email gateway, their rules), but
> > a fully locked down SPF/DMARC/DKIM does
> > increase the likelihood that the target will
> > (along with the network using RPKI/ROAs
> > records), along with the netblock being
> > considered business and not consumer
> > supporting.  The bar has been set high
> > thanks to the miscreants who send UCE,
> > phishing, etc. (and this is why we can't have
> > nice things).
>
> Today I got a "devel mailing list probe message", saying:
>
> > The [email protected] mailing list has received a number
> > of bounces from you, indicating that there may be a problem delivering
> > messages to [email protected].  A sample is attached below.
> > Please examine this message to make sure there are no problems with
> > your email address.  You may want to check with your mail
> > administrator for more help.
>
> The attachment is a report from bastion01.rdu3.fedoraproject.org:
>
> > <[email protected]> (expanded from
> >     <[email protected]>): host 
> > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.251.163.26]
> >     said: 550-5.7.30 Your email has been blocked because DKIM authentication
> >     didn't pass 550-5.7.30 for this message. Gmail requires all email bulk
> >     senders to 550-5.7.30 authenticate their email with DKIM. 550-5.7.30
> >     550-5.7.30  Authentication results: 550-5.7.30  DKIM = did not pass
> >     550-5.7.30  To set up DKIM for your sending domains, visit 550-5.7.30
> >     https://support.google.com/a?p=turn-on-dkim  550-5.7.30 To learn more 
> > about
> >     Gmail requirements for bulk senders, visit 550 5.7.30
> >     https://support.google.com/a?p=sender-guidelines.
> >     af79cd13be357-93a3db96cd5si21022585a.279 - gsmtp (in reply to end of 
> > DATA
> >     command)
>
> Plus an email, where apparantly soneone sent via list
>
> From    
> devel-bounces+31022bf857b0d352acd1cf95ffac455832e8d...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> To      [email protected]
> Subject devel mailing list probe message
>
> but the mail content is a legit message from some "Martin"
> (fedora-review patch).
>
> So, even delivery to these addresses seems to have stopped working, not
> only sending from them.

I don't think this is related. I've been getting "bounce probe"
messages to my actual @gmail address every now and then for a year or
so. Looks like GMail sometimes just rejects valid messages from this
list.

Fabio
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