Dan, do you get to unilaterally decide what terms and phrases are used in the CoC without any type of broader discussion? Also, if you're going to speak so "matter of factly" about such a sensitive subject you should use a credible source and not some random twitter thread. There are peer reviewed sources that can be cited about racism. Lose your attitude. Am I doing the "public correcting/shaming" the right way?
Caleb On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:36 PM <garr...@damore.org> wrote: > Minor suggestion: if the term race is not descriptive enough or is > confusing, then perhaps "ethnicity" would be better. I think quoting the > term in the CoC is a bad idea, because that can often be perceived as > trivializing the concept being quoted, and nothing could be farther from > the intent. Racial tension, and racism, is a very serious matter in many > places in the world, and we would *not* want to do anything that suggests > we treat the matter with anything less than the full concern it deserves. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Udo Grabowski (IMK) <udo.grabow...@kit.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:10 AM > To: illumos-developer <develo...@lists.illumos.org>; illumos-discuss < > disc...@lists.illumos.org> > Cc: developer@lists.open-zfs.org; Dan McDonald <dan...@joyent.com> > Subject: Re: [discuss] [developer] Code of Conduct updates > > On 22/10/2019 18:01, Dan McDonald wrote: > > > > > >> On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) < > udo.grabow...@kit.edu> wrote: > >> > >> "Race" is a term that itself already stems from at least some form of > >> racism. There are no "races" in the homo sapiens sapiens subspecies, > >> to which all living humans belong. Especially as a German, I'm always > >> bewildered to see this term circulating in the american culture, even > >> in official forms, where I always enter "homo sapiens sapiens" when > >> asked for "race". I'm wondering why nobody stumbled about that term > already. > > > > Regardless of your opinion, discrimination by "race" exists, has > evidence to support it, and will not be tolerated. > > > > It's a bit US-centric, but I'd HIGHLY recommend this little history > lesson: > > > > https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1186468302400507904 > > > > We will not be striking this term, as doing so would hide the problem > that clearly exists. > > > > Dan > > > > I fully understand that this is still a major problem in some countries, > but maybe putting the term in quotes ("race") helps to transport the > message that this term is not adequate when used for humans. > > -- > Dr.Udo Grabowski Inst.f.Meteorology & Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT > http://www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php > KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology http://www.kit.edu > Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026 > > > > ------------------------------------------ > openzfs: openzfs-developer > Permalink: > https://openzfs.topicbox.com/groups/developer/T91ab128e3e20cf25-M5d469e2aafa5f44abe27f2c8 > Delivery options: > https://openzfs.topicbox.com/groups/developer/subscription > ------------------------------------------ openzfs: openzfs-developer Permalink: https://openzfs.topicbox.com/groups/developer/T91ab128e3e20cf25-Mb1ed7ccc1dcef62bd98ddac0 Delivery options: https://openzfs.topicbox.com/groups/developer/subscription
