If you want to discuss the "wider" issue here, feel free to use the UK and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange:
http://groups.dowire.org/groups/ukie Steven Clift Democracies Online On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Owen Blacker<[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Tom, you're a star. > And yeah, that's obviously where mySociety's interest in the specific issue > ends. The wider issue deserves debate, but here isn't really the appropriate > place. > > > 2009/7/6 Tom Steinberg <[email protected]> >> >> Yes, just to say, I'm not going to get into the business of why she >> was fired, what was said, who told on who and so on. My mission is >> over. >> >> Tom >> >> 2009/7/6 Matt Wardman <[email protected]>: >> > I think this - as it looks like a private communication by email >> > (presumably) - puts the disciplinary action into question. Did anyone >> > see it >> > but HB? >> > >> > If that could be clarified it would be helpful, but perhaps it needs to >> > be a >> > separate issue to the MySociety riposte. >> > >> > Matt >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Tom Steinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> I've just had a phone chat with Lisa Greenwood, the sacked civil >> >> servant. She's explained, and even been kind enough to send me an >> >> email that I can use as evidence. >> >> >> >> In short, what she told me happened was: >> >> 1.) She used google and ended up on Hazel Blear's page on >> >> TheyWorkForYou.com >> >> 2.) She clicked through from it to Hazel's official site >> >> 3.) She found the 'contact me' page on the official site and then >> >> clicked on the email address, which, using a mailto: tag popped up her >> >> work email client. >> >> 4.) She wrote and sent her fatal email, which was delivered from her >> >> DCSF email account, not her Hotmail which she'd normally use. >> >> >> >> Here's how Lisa describes it in her own words: >> >> >> >> "Dear Tom, >> >> >> >> I googled Hazel Blears and found the website 'they work for you' and >> >> it said to contact Hazel Blears click on the following link >> >> http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/hazel_blears/salford I then clicked >> >> on her personal webpage that said 'contact me'. You will have to >> >> contact the DCFS for them to explain their interception. >> >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> >> Lisa Greenwood" >> >> >> >> So there it is. I'll use this to ask for a retraction from the >> >> original journalist who seeded the story, and from anyone else who ran >> >> with it and who hasn't corrected by tomorrow. >> >> >> >> best, >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mailing list [email protected] >> >> Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: >> >> >> >> >> >> https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mailing list [email protected] >> > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: >> > >> > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list [email protected] >> Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: >> >> https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list [email protected] > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > -- Steven Clift - http://stevenclift.com Executive Director - http://E-Democracy.Org Donate today: http://e-democracy.org/donate _______________________________________________ Mailing list [email protected] Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public
