Just in case amyone has missed it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/jul/06/telegraph-hazel-blears-expenses-civil-servant-sacking

Matt

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Steven Clift <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you want to discuss the "wider" issue here, feel free to use the UK
> and Ireland E-Democracy Exchange:
>
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> Steven Clift
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> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Owen Blacker<[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thanks, Tom, you're a star.
> > And yeah, that's obviously where mySociety's interest in the specific
> issue
> > ends. The wider issue deserves debate, but here isn't really the
> appropriate
> > place.
> >
> >
> > 2009/7/6 Tom Steinberg <[email protected]>
> >>
> >> Yes, just to say, I'm not going to get into the business of why she
> >> was fired, what was said, who told on who and so on. My mission is
> >> over.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> 2009/7/6 Matt Wardman <[email protected]>:
> >> > I think this - as it looks like a private communication by email
> >> > (presumably) - puts the disciplinary action into question. Did anyone
> >> > see it
> >> > but HB?
> >> >
> >> > If that could be clarified it would be helpful, but perhaps it needs
> to
> >> > be a
> >> > separate issue to the MySociety riposte.
> >> >
> >> > Matt
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Tom Steinberg <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I've just had a phone chat with Lisa Greenwood, the sacked civil
> >> >> servant. She's explained, and even been kind enough to send me an
> >> >> email that I can use as evidence.
> >> >>
> >> >> In short, what she told me happened was:
> >> >> 1.) She used google and ended up on Hazel Blear's page on
> >> >> TheyWorkForYou.com
> >> >> 2.) She clicked through from it to Hazel's official site
> >> >> 3.) She found the 'contact me' page on the official site and then
> >> >> clicked on the email address, which, using a mailto: tag popped up
> her
> >> >> work email client.
> >> >> 4.) She wrote and sent her fatal email, which was delivered from her
> >> >> DCSF email account, not her Hotmail which she'd normally use.
> >> >>
> >> >> Here's how Lisa describes it in her own words:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Dear Tom,
> >> >>
> >> >> I googled Hazel Blears and found the website 'they work for you' and
> >> >> it said to contact Hazel Blears click on the following link
> >> >> http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/hazel_blears/salford   I then
> clicked
> >> >> on her personal webpage that said  'contact me'.  You will have to
> >> >> contact the DCFS for them to explain their interception.
> >> >>
> >> >> Many thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Lisa Greenwood"
> >> >>
> >> >> So there it is. I'll use this to ask for a retraction from the
> >> >> original journalist who seeded the story, and from anyone else who
> ran
> >> >> with it and who hasn't corrected by tomorrow.
> >> >>
> >> >> best,
> >> >>
> >> >> Tom
> >> >>
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