On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:58:38AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 01:52:35PM +0100, Toad wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 02:43:16AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: > > > The JRE license permits redistribution - exactly what are we violating > > > (section and paragraph please)? > > > > READ MY FUCKING EMAIL IAN. Or you could simply try to download the JRE > > from http://java.sun.com/ AND READ THE CLICK THROUGH LICENSE. > > I did - your argument is bullshit amateur lawyering, stop acting like > you know what you are talking about. > > If there is the possiblity of an issue I will contact Sun and clarify it > - we certainly aren't basing any decisions on your expert legal opinion.
Have you even read the paragraph pasted in the other mail? > > Oh, and DON'T SHOUT, its rude. > > Ian. > > > > > > > Ian. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:16:26AM +0100, Dave Hooper wrote: > > > > As I understand it, yes, we're blatantly in violation, but bundling the > > > > JRE into the installer is also in violation. Again, as I understand it, > > > > if we bundle JRE with Freenet, we should try to ensure that it is not > > > > usable by other applications. > > > > > > > > I can see no way of achieving this. If indeed it is acceptable to bundle > > > > the JRE installer inside a 'heavy installer' then what's preventing any > > > > casual user downloading the heavy installer just for the JRE? I think > > > > *this* is what Sun really wants to prevent. I believe that if we bundle > > > > Sun JRE we *cannot* use Sun's JRE installer. > > > > > > > > The only solutions I see are to produce our own installer for JRE (not > > > > fun, no thank you) or just scrap the automatic download of the JRE and > > > > request that the users go to java.sun.com and download it themselves. > > > > > > > > And then we're back where we started with a user-unfriendly installer. > > > > > > > > <shrug> > > > > > > > > d > > > > > > > > > The best option is probably for the lite installer to download and run > > > > > the heavy installer if it detects that the user does not have the JRE > > > > > installed. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 02:34:47AM +0100, toad wrote: > > > > >> Please produce a freenet-wininstall.exe variation that includes the JRE, > > > > >> in the same file. Then delete the illegal files > > > > >> j2re-1_4_1_02-windows-i586-i.exe, j2re-1_4_1_03-windows-i586-i.exe and > > > > >> jre-win32-latest.exe from http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/ > > > > >> > > > > >> Then email me to say you have done it. I will delete the files if you > > > > >> will just deal with the wininstallers. > > > > >> > > > > >> You may want to make a wininstaller version that does not include the > > > > >> JRE, we can link to both versions. > > > > >> > > > > >> This is a release blocker, although there are a few others. > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >> Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > > > > >> ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > > > > > ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > devl mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > > > > > -- > > > Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Coordinator, The Freenet Project http://freenetproject.org/ > > > Founder, Locutus http://locut.us/ > > > Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ian/ > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > > ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > > > > -- > Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Coordinator, The Freenet Project http://freenetproject.org/ > Founder, Locutus http://locut.us/ > Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ian/ -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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