Toad seems to be talking about the JDK license - which is not the same as the JRE license. I still (having read both Toad's email and the license) don't see what the problem is.
If there is real doubt I can email someone at Sun to find out - let's not rely on amature lawyering. Ian. On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0200, Menno Jonkers wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ian Clarke wrote: > | The JRE license permits redistribution - exactly what are we > | violating (section and paragraph please)? > > The JRE should be distributed complete and unmodified, i.e. you can't > just pick the parts you like (as in the current situation). See attached > message from Toad and full license at > > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/j2re-1_4_1_03-license.html > > Cheers, > > Menno > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQE/E91p9m/IbJq4o8sRAm9TAKDMG2izHwGtLV+7nAJI1lEOn943GwCeOFra > WYoR/Ly4wzgO7oL3R7Ubyv4= > =mnWc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer > From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 01:12:06PM +0100, Dave Hooper wrote: > > > Ok, I am getting "download of jre-win32-latest.exe failed" errors, if I > > > wasn't at the end of a slow modem I might try to fix it myself, but > > > since I am can someone look into it? > > > > Oh, shit. Looks like the symbolic link is pointing to nowhere for some > > reason. > > Could someone with access to sftp go in to shell.sourceforge.net and cd to > > /home/groups/f/fr/freenet/htdocs/snapshots and ln jre-win32-latest.exe to > > point to j2re-1_4_1_03-windows-i586-i.exe > > > > thanks > > Sun's license says: > > License to Distribute Software. Subject to the terms and conditions of > this Agreement, including, but not limited to the Java Technology > Restrictions of these Supplemental Terms, Sun grants you a > non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited license without fees to > reproduce and distribute the Software, provided that (i) you distribute > the Software complete and unmodified (unless otherwise specified in the > applicable README file) and only bundled as part of, and for the sole > purpose of running, your Programs, (ii) the Programs add significant and > primary functionality to the Software, (iii) you do not distribute > additional software intended to replace any component(s) of the Software > (unless otherwise specified in the applicable README file), (iv) you do > not remove or alter any proprietary legends or notices contained in the > Software, (v) you only distribute the Software subject to a license > agreement that protects Sun's interests consistent with the terms > contained in this Agreement, and (vi) you agree to defend and indemnify > Sun and its licensors from and against any damages, costs, liabilities, > settlement amounts and/or expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred > in connection with any claim, lawsuit or action by any third party that > arises or results from the use or distribution of any and all Programs > and/or Software. > > (II), (III), (IV), and (VI) we are fine on. > (V) is not meaningful unless we do a single file bundle > (I) is the big problem. If you go to > http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/ and download the file, you can > install the JDK from there without going through Sun's servers and > without installing Freenet. That URL is commonly bounced around the > mailing list and will probably be on google by now. "only bundled as > part of" would seem to mean that we are required to produce a single EXE > containing the wininstaller and the sun JDK. Ian, could you ask your > lawyer friends about this? Or somebody could ask Sun... > > -- > Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -- Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coordinator, The Freenet Project http://freenetproject.org/ Founder, Locutus http://locut.us/ Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ian/
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