On Saturday, February 25, 2017 07:50:05 PM Ian Clarke wrote: > While I'm more familiar with Slack, https://gitter.im/ is an alternative we > should consider that's used by a few open source projects. > Slack may have more of a barrier to entry for users, for example the Kotlin > open source project appears to require an external invite mechanism before > users can access Slack - http://slack.kotlinlang.org/ > However, Gitter seems to require a Github account, which might be a problem > for non-developers.
Do those services actually support mailing lists, as in only accessing them using a real mail client? Does this actually work well or is it some cheap buggy gateway? E.g. the mails I get from you are always having very broken quoting, is that perhaps because you use such a cloud service? :| Our typical developer is using a highly sophisticated terminal mail client which has received decades of development. Having to use a cheap JavaScript web interface would frustrate those people a lot and cripple their productivity. Also the vendor lock-in would be very problematic: I currently have 3649 unprocessed mails in my Freenet inbox which I consider as TODOs. Some of them date back half a decade, and yes, I want to process all of them. How would I be supposed to resolve them if the typical cloud chat service like Gitter / Slack goes bankrupt in much less than this time and takes down our data with it? :| Sorry to annoy you with opposition yet once more. It's just that there are people who actually consider the fact that email exists since 1970 as a *good* thing - that means that it does actually work :) > As for complaints about proprietary services, nothing in the goals of our > project mandates that we only ever use open source tools. Nothing in the goals of Apple Computer obliges them to not sell 5 inch thick black laptops like Lenovo does - yet they keep selling thin white ones. - We must not forget the interests of a typical Freenet "customer", and free software is very likely among that. We'll lose some of them if we choose to become too proprietary.
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