The biggest threat to free speech today is the take over of corporations and shareholders as the arbiters of what is and is not allowed to be spoken. We allow this to happen because corporations and shareholders "know what's best for the economy" and if you don't like it you're a "postmodern neomarxist." Sad to see these thought stopping political buzzwords being thrown around to label, demean and dismiss any opposition to the corporate takeover of speech and thought.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 5:13 PM Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> wrote: > That's why I clarified with postmodern neomarxism, although FYI - in the > US everyone views "woke" as a pejorative > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adPXDTvADD0>. > > Here is an excellent book > <https://www.amazon.com/Woke-Racism-Religion-Betrayed-America-ebook/dp/B095JLK96B> > about > it by a Columbia University linguistics professor. Let me know what you > think! > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 4:05 PM craig mcgee < > craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: > >> I take woke to mean definition 1. >> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke >> what is so wrong with that? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> >> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 9:55 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list >> >> I am a classical liberal and a social libertarian. I grew up as part of a >> small religious minority and saw ethnic bigotry at a young age. Even as a >> child I instantly recognized it as evil. >> >> I have no problem with left liberals, libertarians, or conservatives. I >> think they each bring a critical perspective. >> >> I hate identitarianism in all its forms, on the right and the left. >> >> The woke mind virus, more formally postmodern neo-marxism, is the >> greatest threat to civilization today. It is a cancer that has already done >> incredible damage. >> >> Anyone who has a problem with that can touch grass. You can quote me on >> that. >> >> Thanks for your support on the name change :) >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 3:36 PM DJ Amireh <cactus...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I agreed with Ian on the name change and I think "Freenet classic" is >>> perfectly acceptable and indicates exactly what it is -- the classic >>> version. It's not saying it's outdated or legacy or anything like that. And >>> I sympathize with Ian's frustration dealing with this but personally as a >>> member of "the next generation" that Ian is concerned about I was >>> disappointed to see this "anti woke rhetoric" being thrown around. The next >>> generation is not pro or anti woke but throwing around accusations of >>> "virtue signalling" is typical alt right rhetoric and something I was >>> disappointed to see from someone representing a project that I hold in high >>> regards. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 12:16 PM Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Woke virtue signaling noted. I don't care whether you find it funny. >>>> I'm not seeking your approval. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 11:12 AM craig mcgee < >>>> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ian, >>>>> I didn't say your statement was racist, just that I didnt find it >>>>> funny, that's all. I gathered it was made as a joke, but just wanted to >>>>> state my opposition to racism, as russel requested, and leave it at that. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> *From:* Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> >>>>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 5:07 PM >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list >>>>> >>>>> Only a midwit idiot would think that remark was racist, particularly >>>>> one who brought racism into the conversation in the first place. >>>>> >>>>> I thought it was funny, and that's all that matters. If you don't like >>>>> it, I suggest you touch grass. >>>>> >>>>> I'm going to start blocking you idiots. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 9:38 AM craig mcgee < >>>>> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have to admit I was confused by the statement Ian made. Joke or >>>>>> not, it wasn't funny. >>>>>> but this is as far as I will go on the matter as I don't wish to get >>>>>> involved in the freenet dispute. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> *From:* Russell Glenn <rusgl...@swismail.com> >>>>>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org >>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 3:33 PM >>>>>> *Subject:* Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list >>>>>> >>>>>> Mr. Ian Clarke, >>>>>> >>>>>> when discussing your acquisition of a secondary domain, >>>>>> "freenet.org", for your highly controversial unilateral decision >>>>>> to rewrite the Freenet Project which has always been hosted >>>>>> on "freenetproject.org", you said the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> > Yeah, all of the provocatively racist domain names were taken >>>>>> anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> Notice that this is a VERBATIM quote, and the email of yours did >>>>>> not contain ANY other content, nothing to reduce the gravity of >>>>>> this statement; the gravity of which cannot be reduced anyway. >>>>>> Proof: >>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/devl@freenetproject.org/msg55336.html >>>>>> >>>>>> As a black person, but not only as such, I inform you that racism >>>>>> is NOT tolerable by any means whatsoever on this planet and will >>>>>> NEVER be. >>>>>> >>>>>> And before you attempt to dismiss this as a joke: >>>>>> Millions of people died due to racism. >>>>>> You, especially as a white person, are not entitled to joke about >>>>>> that. >>>>>> Nobody is. >>>>>> >>>>>> And this piles onto the provable falsehoods and other insults you have >>>>>> produced on this list in the previous days. >>>>>> >>>>>> Therefore, it is my duty to join the ranks of people who request >>>>>> you to: >>>>>> * immediately step down as leader of the Freenet Project and >>>>>> * leave its board and >>>>>> * transfer ownership of the domains to the Freenet developer team and >>>>>> * transfer ownership of all other related accounts and >>>>>> * cease to use the name "Freenet" for any of your new projects. >>>>>> >>>>>> Racists, or those who joke about racism, do not belong into positions >>>>>> where power is wielded. >>>>>> >>>>>> As you have failed to prove that the board of the project is still >>>>>> constructed of active members of the community, >>>>>> and not of those who have been inactive for decades as Mr. Daigniere >>>>>> stated, >>>>>> I join those who request leadership is transferred to the >>>>>> leading developer. >>>>>> To my knowledge, this is Mr. Babenhauserheide. >>>>>> >>>>>> Should he not accept the position, I would vouch for the previous lead >>>>>> developer Mr. Dougherty, or anyone of the choice of the two. >>>>>> >>>>>> Finally, I urgently implore anyone who reads this email to state >>>>>> their support. We must stand united against racism. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Russell Glenn >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ian Clarke >>>>> Founder, The Freenet Project >>>>> Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ian Clarke >>>> Founder, The Freenet Project >>>> Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Ian Clarke >> Founder, The Freenet Project >> Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >> >> > > -- > Ian Clarke > Founder, The Freenet Project > Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >
