Same issue here ...
2013/11/18 Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> > I configured the design wiki rights like others sub wikis rights. > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Thomas Mortagne > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sounds like "code" css class is broken in that skin (this class is > > supposed to follow newlines and white spaces like <pre>). > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Jeremie BOUSQUET > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Another thing, seems now the {{code}} macro puts everything on one line > ... > >> (at least, for unauthentified user). > >> Same page: > >> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/MailArchiveApplication > >> > >> BR, > >> Jeremie > >> > >> > >> 2013/11/18 Marius Dumitru Florea <[email protected]> > >> > >>> Someone else complained to me about this rights issue too and I > couldn't > >>> reproduce with my user because I have special rights. > >>> On Nov 15, 2013 5:18 PM, "Jeremie BOUSQUET" < > [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hello, > >>> > > >>> > Maybe it's not finished yet or I missed something, but if I browse > this > >>> > page: > >>> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/MailArchiveApplication > >>> > > >>> > If I'm not authentified, I can see the page. > >>> > If I log in (in order to edit the page), I can't even see the page > ("You > >>> > are not allowed to view this document or perform this action ..."). > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 2013/11/15 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> > >>> > > >>> > > Hi, > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Vincent Massol < > [email protected]> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > >>> > > > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Hi, > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > I've finished moving the content from > >>> > > > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/WebHome and > >>> > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org (Improvements, Standards, Tech, > >>> Mockups > >>> > > > > spaces) to the new wiki > >>> > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/ > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Woohoo :) Nice progress from before, well done! > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Some quick comments: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > * Is it possible to remove the centered thing and do the same as > on > >>> > other > >>> > > > subwikis of xwiki.org? (consistency!) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > The proposal pages are full width just like the other pages on > >>> xwiki.org > >>> > . > >>> > > The only centered page is design:Main.WebHome which is consistent > with > >>> > > xwiki:Main.WebHome. I won't change that. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > * It's a real pity that you seem to have lost the history and > thus > >>> > > creation > >>> > > > date/author and last modified date/author since ideally the LT > should > >>> > be > >>> > > > filtered by latest proposal first (as for the Extensions of > e.x.o). > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Just like on e.x.o the livetable is filtered after 'Last modified'. > >>> Pages > >>> > > on design.xwiki.org have suffered modifications (objects added, > etc.) > >>> so > >>> > > it's normal that they are modified in the past week. > >>> > > I haven't lost the history (except for 4 pages). All the other have > >>> been > >>> > > imported with history, but when you look at them you see they were > >>> > created > >>> > > by me because that's how we handle import and copy (see > >>> > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-925) > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > * I think you've been a bit overzeleaous in changing states of > >>> > > proposals... > >>> > > > going to try to fix some. At least that's a good way to reset > >>> > everything > >>> > > :) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > I used scripts: copied the state from old dev:Design space, added > >>> > > 'completed' state for the incubator pages. I've updated some > statuses > >>> for > >>> > > some of them, yes. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > * "Active" vs "Dormant" is too hard IMO. What's the criteria? For > >>> > example > >>> > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/APM Nobody is > working > >>> > > > actively but it's something I believe we need and it's still > valid. > >>> > What > >>> > > > about > >>> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/AlternateURLSchemeI'm > >>> > > > working on it, once every 4 months. I think these 2 states are > too > >>> hard > >>> > > to > >>> > > > maintain because nobody is going to move them from Active to > Dormant. > >>> > I'd > >>> > > > suggest we replace both "Active" and "Dormant" by "Open" because > I > >>> > don't > >>> > > > think we need to separate them. "Open" should list all designs > about > >>> > > things > >>> > > > that we wish to do. Those that we don't want to do should be in > >>> > > "Dropped". > >>> > > > WDYT? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > I have a list with like 5 variants of states we could have for this > >>> app. > >>> > If > >>> > > you really want to have this discussion about the naming we could, > but > >>> > the > >>> > > current variant is: 'Idea', 'Active', 'Dormant', 'Completed', > >>> 'Dropped'. > >>> > > Because we had the discussion about the Status of the project at > the > >>> > > seminar and that is not visible what is on going and what we might > want > >>> > to > >>> > > achieve, I've added the 2 states. If we are going to add (Not > planned) > >>> > also > >>> > > a 'Target' column to specify the version we want to release that > >>> feature, > >>> > > having an 'Active' state is important since it shows the features > we > >>> are > >>> > > really working on. > >>> > > > >>> > > We could have like a job that listens if a page was not modified > for a > >>> > > certain period of time and change the status from 'Active' to > 'Dormant' > >>> > > (Not planned). > >>> > > > >>> > > As mentioned in my early mail I don't really know the status of > others' > >>> > > proposals so that's why I asked of you if you could update them in > >>> order > >>> > to > >>> > > be accurate. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > * Is > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/CAPTCHAIntegration#Historyreally > >>> > > > "Dropped"? Shouldn't it be "Completed"? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > I haven't changed the Status of this proposal, so this is how it > must > >>> > have > >>> > > been put by Jerome on devs wiki. Actually the devs status was > 'Dead' > >>> > which > >>> > > in the new application is marked as 'Dropped'. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > * I don't understand how you categorize designs and how you link > them > >>> > > > together, for ex: > >>> > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/SearchLucene > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > The proposals are linked together by using the parent/child > >>> relationship. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > * I don't really understand why you consider "Design" to be > about UI > >>> > > > only... For ex > >>> > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/AlternateURLSchemeis > >>> > > purely > >>> > > > design and you categorized it as "Feature". > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > For me what is related to visual aspects is 'Design', what is > related > >>> to > >>> > > code is 'Implementation'. We could discuss and add more states but > I've > >>> > > tried to pick the easiest ones. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > I agree with Vincent, in practice the page about Mail archive I work > on > >>> > (listed above) describes both UI and Code of the app. By the way it > >>> > contradicts the name of the whole subwiki ("design.xwiki.org"), > >>> > considering > >>> > the scope of this subwiki is not limited to proposals on visual > aspects, > >>> so > >>> > it should not be the same term IMO for the whole subwiki and for this > >>> > category Design (vs Implementation), or then you should call the > subwiki > >>> " > >>> > design-and-implementation.xwiki.org" :) . Design vs Implementation > makes > >>> > me > >>> > think of Architecture vs Code but maybe it's a developer-centric > view :) > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > 'Feature' is used for 'parent' categories and for proposals that > don't > >>> > > belong to any other category (you could create a special page to > be set > >>> > as > >>> > > parent or use the current as feature). > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > I also don't understand what > >>> > > > "Feature'" means. And why a proposal of "Design" cannot include > >>> > > > requirements? > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > This was a limitation of the application (I was displaying related > >>> pages > >>> > > livetable just for Feature proposal), now is fixed. If a page have > >>> > children > >>> > > it will display them. > >>> > > Again if you find something that is misplaced please help me fix > it. > >>> > > > >>> > > Thanks, > >>> > > Caty > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Or is it just the "latest" stage it's in but that doesn't > >>> > > > mean much in agile dev since the design and code work together > and > >>> are > >>> > > > cycling in small iterations... :) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks! > >>> > > > -Vincent > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Since I've been using scripts, the Participants and Status > might > >>> not > >>> > be > >>> > > > > accurate since I marked most of them as Completed. Feel free to > >>> mark > >>> > > your > >>> > > > > proposal accordingly and maybe even change the parent > hierarchy if > >>> > you > >>> > > > find > >>> > > > > your proposal in the wrong place. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Thanks, > >>> > > > > Caty > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Mortagne > >>> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > >>> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > > > > > Hi, > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > *Short version* for voting: > >>> > > > > > > *A*. Creation of a new wiki on xwiki.org farm that will > hold > >>> > > > > development > >>> > > > > > > process details about a specific feature. This wiki will > >>> > deprecate > >>> > > > > > > dev.xwiki.org:Design and incubator.myxwiki.org > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > +1 > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > *B*. Vote on naming alternatives for this new wiki: > >>> > > > > > > design.xwiki.org > >>> > > > > > > incubator.xwiki.org > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > +1 for design.xwiki.org > >>> > > > > > -0 for incubator.xwiki.org, "incubator" means > implementations > >>> > > waiting > >>> > > > > > to be approved in some mainstream repository for me not > design > >>> and > >>> > > > > > architecture. It would make more sense used as the name of a > >>> github > >>> > > > > > repository/organization associated to this wiki for example. > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > *C*. UI on how a Proposal will be displayed in this new > wiki > >>> > > (example > >>> > > > > > > AppWithinMinutes): > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDesignWiki > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Looks very nice. Same as Denis, it's very important that > it's as > >>> > easy > >>> > > > > > as possible to use and not a constraint in order to actually > be > >>> > used. > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > >>> > > > > > > *Long version: * > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Right now development process activities are located in > >>> multiple > >>> > > > > places: > >>> > > > > > > - Analysis + Architecture: > >>> > > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/ > >>> > > > > > > - Analysis + User Interface: > >>> > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ > >>> > > > > > > - Other: http://xwiki.markmail.org/, http://jira.xwiki.org > , > >>> > chats, > >>> > > > git > >>> > > > > > > comments, etc. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > This process can be hard to optimize and information is > hard to > >>> > > track > >>> > > > > if > >>> > > > > > > you are looking for specific information. > >>> > > > > > > And the worst part of it is that is hard to automatize and > lots > >>> > of > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > > > items need manual gathering or search. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > *Part A. * > >>> > > > > > > This mail is about combining > >>> > > > > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/and > >>> > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/ work in a single place. > >>> > > > > > > This has already been discussed several times before ( > >>> > > > > > > http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/kc32dufsf7nyyt6s and > >>> > > > > > > http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/izj6aiyodwqia4vl) and the > >>> vote > >>> > > was > >>> > > > > > > favorable in this direction. > >>> > > > > > > The proposal was to create a new wiki called > >>> design.xwiki.orgthat > >>> > > > > will > >>> > > > > > > contain the combined information and that will target > >>> developers. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The new wiki will be used to gather only proposal's > development > >>> > > > process > >>> > > > > > > information: requirements, architecture, solutions > >>> alternatives, > >>> > > user > >>> > > > > > > interface variants, planning, etc. for a specific > >>> > > > > > feature/idea/improvement. > >>> > > > > > > After the proposal is implemented it will be properly > >>> documented > >>> > in > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > > > right location for users (ex platform.xwiki.org). > >>> > > > > > > It is acceptable to have CSS + JS code on this wiki in > order to > >>> > > > > > demonstrate > >>> > > > > > > the functionality of the proposals, but we should not add > >>> > > > > > > experimental/dangerous code (groovy scripts, jars, etc.). > For > >>> > this > >>> > > > case > >>> > > > > > it > >>> > > > > > > is advisable to use a test machine, share your own > instance or > >>> > use > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > > > contrib.xwiki.org repository for hosting. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The version upgrades will be handle by a community admin > and > >>> the > >>> > > wiki > >>> > > > > > > gardening by me. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The data from incubator.myxwiki.org and dev.xwiki.org: > Design > >>> > will > >>> > > be > >>> > > > > > moved > >>> > > > > > > gradually after the new wiki is created. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > *Part B. * > >>> > > > > > > You should state your opinion regarding which name is > better > >>> for > >>> > > the > >>> > > > > new > >>> > > > > > > wiki: > >>> > > > > > > - design.xwiki.org > >>> > > > > > > - incubator.xwiki.org > >>> > > > > > > - we accept other proposals. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > *Part C.* > >>> > > > > > > I've made a proposal on how a proposal page would look > like: > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDesignWiki > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The proposal page will gather all the information related > to > >>> it, > >>> > > > making > >>> > > > > > it > >>> > > > > > > easier to track it's progress. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The entries will be separated depending on 4 categories: > >>> > Analysis, > >>> > > > > > > Architecture, User Interface and Implementation, each > category > >>> > > having > >>> > > > > > it's > >>> > > > > > > own status, participants, jiras and timeframe. > >>> > > > > > > Categories are not mandatory for all proposals, smaller > >>> proposals > >>> > > > will > >>> > > > > > have > >>> > > > > > > just the related pages for certain areas. > >>> > > > > > > Each proposal will store it's data in a dedicated space. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The implementation of the proposal will be handled by me. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > >>> > > > > > > Thanks, > >>> > > > > > > Caty > >>> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > > > > > > devs mailing list > >>> > > > > > > [email protected] > >>> > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > -- > >>> > > > > > Thomas Mortagne > >>> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > > > > > devs mailing list > >>> > > > > > [email protected] > >>> > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > > > > devs mailing list > >>> > > > > [email protected] > >>> > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > > > devs mailing list > >>> > > > [email protected] > >>> > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >>> > > > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > > devs mailing list > >>> > > [email protected] > >>> > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >>> > > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > devs mailing list > >>> > [email protected] > >>> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> devs mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devs mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Mortagne > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
