Hi Vincent, On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:19 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Caty, > > On 17 Feb 2016 at 17:44:56, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ([email protected] > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > > > Fixed the links > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > This proposal wants to improve the current download page layout found > at > > > http://enterprise.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download > > > > > > > > > The proposal is here: > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/ > > > > > > bin/view/Proposal/ > > > > > > XWikiOrgDownload2Layout > > > > > > > > > The proposal splits the current information into multiple pages > (version, > > > type). Make sure you read the "Changes" section from the proposal. > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > > I really like the new Download page (LTS, Stable, Dev). Much nicer and > cleaner than the current version! :) > > However I’m not sure about the second download page with the Local, > Server, Debian boxes. There are several issues for me: > * The Local packagings can be used on a server > * The server packagings can be used locally > * The Debian packaging can be used both locally and on a server > So currently the documentation pages use terms like "Standalone distribution" and "WAR package". For me these naming are not user-friendly and I might not know what the acronym stands for or what standalone means. That's why I suggested Local and Server, since they are more simplistic but yes maybe they are not truly correct. Maybe we can iterate more on the naming but we need an improvement here since we want to encourage "local" testing even for not so technical users/administrators. > * Server is not a good differentiator since XWiki is a Server app even if > you install it locally ;) > * BTW it’s misising the other tutorials and other packagings (the yaourt > one for example) > To be honest I didn't know what you were referring to until I found http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HUsingyaourtonArchLinux When I did the re-design I took the information from the Download page and the "yaourt" one is missing. In order to fix this we could modify the third column called now "Debian Installation" into a other operating systems ways of installing ( or another name ) and list there links towards the Debian and Arch Linux install documentation. > * And even more important it’s also missing Cloud solutions. I’d really > like if we could list the various cloud solutions offered by companies > participating to the xwiki development (and possibly list myxwiki.org too > but if we list it, we need to put visible disclaimer since it’s a test farm > with no warranties and for non-business/personal projects only). > IMO this should be a total different page, let's call it "Test Drive XWiki" or "Try XWiki" or "Evaluate XWiki" that could showcase Playground, MyXWiki and other Cloud solutions, but this should be part of a different proposal than the Download page (which lists versions and install methods). Currently I didn't tackled this proposal yet. > > So maybe we shouldn’t discriminate between Local, Server, Debian but maybe > instead between “On-Premises” and “Cloud”, WDYT? > I'm not sure what "On Premises" means although I know it's an used term, but I don't find it very clear and not sure if it describes well the zip, war, etc. options. The problem is that we list the "Local, Server, Debian" install options after you selected the version you want to download. So I find it a bit odd for an user to be convinced that he wants to download XWiki, select his version and then be presented with the Cloud Solutions. Cloud solutions should be part of an evaluation step, before and independent of the download step. Thanks, Caty > Thanks > -Vincent > > > > Thanks, > > > Caty > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
