One was given... entitled "Bug reporting access restricted on savannah - All new bugs to be reported on github"
It was ignored entirely. GC " [image: Mailtrack] <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> Sender notified by Mailtrack <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> 11/02/19, 02:27:56 PM On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:59 AM Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote: > As most of you may remember, I prefer to stay out of these political > discussions. Discussing code is frustrating enough. But this time I have > to step up for Yavor. All he wrote was the an announcement about the bug > tracker move would have been helpful. And I would go even further on that > point. When we agreed on moving GNUstep to GitHub we also decided to leave > the bug tracker on Savannah, at least this is my recollection of the > result. Please correct me if I am wrong here. If this is true, a bit more > of explanation for this step would be appropriate. Just saying that we no > longe host our code in Savannah, even when done in capital letters, isn’t > an argument. As some may recall, we did move from GNA to GitHub, our code > hasn’t been hosted on Savannah for years. > > I really would like to hear an explanation not a rant. That may be > acceptable behaviour in some countries at the moment, I hope the GNUstep > discussion list is not a place like this. > > Fred > > > Am 02.11.2019 um 03:42 schrieb Gregory Casamento < > [email protected]>: > > > > I really need to be upfront and frank on this subject because it really > upsets me. I am getting really tired of these petty political arguments > getting in the way of making real progress on this project. > > > > I am really not ready to hear "I don't wanna do this... I'm not gonna > sign up for this service or that service because of some political > reason." Free Software is a good cause and I have been fighting for it for > about 20 years now. I joined GNUstep in 1999 and I have been adamant in my > belief and protection of free software, but I have also watched GNUstep > languish because of decisions sometimes made for political ends rather than > for TECHNICAL ones. > > > > If you don't want to use clang, fine.... if we leave gcc behind then I > guess you'll need to fork. You don't like github, then I guess you're not > writing bugs or contributing to the project. It's just as simple as that. > Many of these decisions were made by consensus... moving to github was not > my idea alone it was myself and the maintainers. Someone refusing to > submit bugs due to the fact that they might need a github account isn't > going to change that. > > > > I shut down the savannah bug tracker for a very simple reason. WE > AREN'T HOSTING SOURCE ON SAVANNAH ANYMORE. Contribute, make suggestions to > make things better, but for GOODNESS SAKE make them for technical reasons. > > > > For those who believe that we have received no benefit from moving to > github, think again. Algoriddim likely would not be contributing unless we > were there and also we have had a number of helpful pull requests due to > being here. So, please, don't kid yourselves. Being on github has meant > more exposure for the project which is a good thing. > > > > So, I'm asking you... if you want to help this project leave your petty > political arguments to one side and HELP THE PROJECT and stop WHINING! > > > > FYI, This rant is not directed at one person, just the culmination of > feelings that have been brewing in my mind for a while. > > > > GC > > > > Sender notified by > > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 10:33:29 PM > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:56 AM Gregory Casamento < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I'm sorry to hear that, but the bug tracker at savannah is permanently > closed. I suppose you can use the mailing list. > > Sender notified by > > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 11:56:16 AM > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:25 AM Yavor Doganov <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gregory Casamento wrote: > > > Yes, it is disabled to avoid confusion. > > > > An announcement would have been nice. > > > > > Existing bugs can be updated and closed, but no new ones can be > > > added. > > > > I cannot update existing bugs, perhaps only project members can. > > That's OK. > > > > > Track bugs on github where the main development is now happening. > > > > As I don't have a GitHub account and don't plan to make one, I guess I > > can report bugs to bug-gnustep@. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Gregory Casamento > > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant > > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ > > > > > > -- > > Gregory Casamento > > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant > > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ > > > -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com http://ind.ie/phoenix/
