When I look at the archives it isn’t there:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnustep-dev/2019-05/index.html
Maybe it got stuck. Did you send it from the address you’re subscribed to the
list to?
regards,
Lars
> Am 02.11.2019 um 20:01 schrieb Gregory Casamento <[email protected]>:
>
> *shrug* I sent it. I'm not certain why it didn't go through to the list.
>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:49 PM Ivan Vučica <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> FWIW not in my archive when I search for Savannah
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> sent from phone
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> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:46 Gregory Casamento <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Please see the image attached.
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> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:39 PM Gregory Casamento <[email protected]
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> I sent out an email. I don't know why it didn't reach the list. I sent it
> on gnustep-dev.
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> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:37 PM Ivan Vučica <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I don't mind this myself as I didn't look at Savannah tracker, but I
> personally cannot find those words you quoted. They're not in my email
> archive except in this particular thread.
>
> So perhaps there was indeed no explained announcement of the change?
>
> *shrug*
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> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:30 Gregory Casamento <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> One was given... entitled "Bug reporting access restricted on savannah - All
> new bugs to be reported on github"
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> It was ignored entirely.
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> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:59 AM Fred Kiefer <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> As most of you may remember, I prefer to stay out of these political
> discussions. Discussing code is frustrating enough. But this time I have to
> step up for Yavor. All he wrote was the an announcement about the bug tracker
> move would have been helpful. And I would go even further on that point. When
> we agreed on moving GNUstep to GitHub we also decided to leave the bug
> tracker on Savannah, at least this is my recollection of the result. Please
> correct me if I am wrong here. If this is true, a bit more of explanation for
> this step would be appropriate. Just saying that we no longe host our code in
> Savannah, even when done in capital letters, isn’t an argument. As some may
> recall, we did move from GNA to GitHub, our code hasn’t been hosted on
> Savannah for years.
>
> I really would like to hear an explanation not a rant. That may be acceptable
> behaviour in some countries at the moment, I hope the GNUstep discussion list
> is not a place like this.
>
> Fred
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> > Am 02.11.2019 um 03:42 schrieb Gregory Casamento <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> >
> > I really need to be upfront and frank on this subject because it really
> > upsets me. I am getting really tired of these petty political arguments
> > getting in the way of making real progress on this project.
> >
> > I am really not ready to hear "I don't wanna do this... I'm not gonna sign
> > up for this service or that service because of some political reason."
> > Free Software is a good cause and I have been fighting for it for about 20
> > years now. I joined GNUstep in 1999 and I have been adamant in my belief
> > and protection of free software, but I have also watched GNUstep languish
> > because of decisions sometimes made for political ends rather than for
> > TECHNICAL ones.
> >
> > If you don't want to use clang, fine.... if we leave gcc behind then I
> > guess you'll need to fork. You don't like github, then I guess you're not
> > writing bugs or contributing to the project. It's just as simple as that.
> > Many of these decisions were made by consensus... moving to github was not
> > my idea alone it was myself and the maintainers. Someone refusing to
> > submit bugs due to the fact that they might need a github account isn't
> > going to change that.
> >
> > I shut down the savannah bug tracker for a very simple reason. WE AREN'T
> > HOSTING SOURCE ON SAVANNAH ANYMORE. Contribute, make suggestions to make
> > things better, but for GOODNESS SAKE make them for technical reasons.
> >
> > For those who believe that we have received no benefit from moving to
> > github, think again. Algoriddim likely would not be contributing unless we
> > were there and also we have had a number of helpful pull requests due to
> > being here. So, please, don't kid yourselves. Being on github has meant
> > more exposure for the project which is a good thing.
> >
> > So, I'm asking you... if you want to help this project leave your petty
> > political arguments to one side and HELP THE PROJECT and stop WHINING!
> >
> > FYI, This rant is not directed at one person, just the culmination of
> > feelings that have been brewing in my mind for a while.
> >
> > GC
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> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:56 AM Gregory Casamento <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > I'm sorry to hear that, but the bug tracker at savannah is permanently
> > closed. I suppose you can use the mailing list.
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> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:25 AM Yavor Doganov <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > Gregory Casamento wrote:
> > > Yes, it is disabled to avoid confusion.
> >
> > An announcement would have been nice.
> >
> > > Existing bugs can be updated and closed, but no new ones can be
> > > added.
> >
> > I cannot update existing bugs, perhaps only project members can.
> > That's OK.
> >
> > > Track bugs on github where the main development is now happening.
> >
> > As I don't have a GitHub account and don't plan to make one, I guess I
> > can report bugs to bug-gnustep@.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Gregory Casamento
> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
> http://www.gnustep.org <http://www.gnustep.org/> -
> http://heronsperch.blogspot.com <http://heronsperch.blogspot.com/>
> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ <http://ind.ie/phoenix/>
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> Gregory Casamento
> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
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> http://heronsperch.blogspot.com <http://heronsperch.blogspot.com/>
> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ <http://ind.ie/phoenix/>
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> Gregory Casamento
> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
> http://www.gnustep.org <http://www.gnustep.org/> -
> http://heronsperch.blogspot.com <http://heronsperch.blogspot.com/>
> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ <http://ind.ie/phoenix/>
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> Gregory Casamento
> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
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